Have I lost touch with this industry?

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by KANSAS TRANSIT, Apr 28, 2015.

  1. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

    Dec 3, 2012
    The Nut House
    You listed "facts" as you see them. They are not actual FACTS. Therefore, pointless to rebut. I still stand on the FACT that you do not actually know what you are trying to argue. You do not know what it is like to actually manage or own a trucking company, and be responsible for Hiring, Firing, Maintenance, Safety, and lastly TURNING A PROFIT while still paying your employees a fair wage.
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  3. Brandson

    Brandson Medium Load Member

    Dec 14, 2013
    Why didn't you raise your kids better then..?

    You old guys keep criticizing the generation YOU raised. Think for one minute, lol.
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  4. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

    Jan 31, 2012
    Green Bay Wi
    it is your parents fault your clueless entitled nobody?
  5. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2006
    the road less travelled
    Stop the bickering, please.
  6. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

    Aug 18, 2007
    ~8600+' and loving it!
    This points to one of the biggest generational differences. I'm at the tail end of the boomers, and it's always amazed me how vastly different the work ethic and moral compass changed in those only a few years younger. You see, when you are hired for a job, you know what it pays, and you accept that and do the very best you can at that job for the wages earned. Now it's become "I'm only putting in 'this' much effort because this job doesn't pay enough to do it any better." And not a one of you thinks that's self-centered and totally out of kilter, nor realize how incredibly entitled you come across, as your next passage hammers that nail home.


    You're right, the goals are different. The boss wants his workers to be worth what he pays them. His workers in turn, wish to impart minimum effort while expecting premium pay. Stan's gig is pretty darn good, far better than any doorslammer OTR job. The problem is it does require some physical effort, his guys don't get to sit behind the wheel and just drive as if it's just some video game they're getting payed to play. Believe it or not, some of us actually enjoy physical work; we know it's good for us, and there is satisfaction in doing it right.

    "Modern drivers have a false sense of their worth, and aren't afraid to ask for more compensation than they deserve."


    In the end it's a shift in the work culture that probably will only get worse ($15/hr to flip burgers???) And TruckDuo, while you do a very good job of communicating how the modern drivers sees it, you're not seeing it from our perspective and don't realize how incredibly self-centered and entitled the new attitudes are compared to the attitudes of prior generations. Once, we thought we had to earn the rewards and respect that came with hard work, now it's expected that the respect and rewards be handed out, and then maybe the worker might consider giving his full ability. Do you see the difference, and understand how very self-centered the 'modern' line of thinking is?
  7. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

    Jun 25, 2011
    Tourist Town, FL
    It's the "everybody is a winner" mindset drilled into kids these days. Once they've grown up, they just can't comprehend they've been fed a load of manure, and still try to cling to that mentality. Without raising the ire of the mods, its a socialist, if not Communist way of thinking.
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  8. TruckDuo

    TruckDuo Road Train Member

    Oct 21, 2012
    Chicago, IL
    Kansas is asking about how to attract top talent. Drivers with experience, who know how to do their job, take care of the equipment and make the customer happy. Sounds like some of you guys are talking more about the bad apples of the driver pool. :3some:

    Hammer, I do understand your perspective. I grew up in a household of self-employed business owners. Been working since I was 16 and from when I was in college until I got into trucking I always had two jobs. Got through college working two full time jobs and happy to report when I graduated I never had any student loans to pay back. Would put my time in my corporate America job during the day then take the suit off and go manage a retail business. I've seen both sides. The whole process to attract top talent and weed out the bad ones is not easy. Your gonna have hits and misses. You have to remain flexibile. Everyone has different things they need from their job to feel secure and happy. Adaptation is the key to survival. :smt117
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  9. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

    Dec 16, 2011
    Like I'd tell you!
    Just go look at the swift threads, all the drivers are having a fit because of driver cams. Yet there are jobs like these available, none of them will ever apply because its to much "work". They like not having to think for themselves and drop and hook.... lord forbid they actually have to do a pretrip...

    Then they go start a thread about low wages.

    We have a lazy generation that wants to put the blame on everything but the real problem. THEMSELVES.
  10. TruckDuo

    TruckDuo Road Train Member

    Oct 21, 2012
    Chicago, IL
    Yup ! That's it. The answer is so simple. Kansas, hire only old guys. The rest of us are young, dumb and full of ###. :yes2557:
  11. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

    Nov 8, 2009
    The Highway To Hell.
    I could never understand leaving money on the table. If there's more to make, I'm grabbing it. Call me "money hungry", but I'm out here for one reason and one reason only. Money. I do enjoy what I do. Don't get me wrong. But it's all about what is going in my wallet. These guys who want to do as little as possible and are happy with the bare minimum freak me out.
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