Have you guys read this?

But they do have that. They may have to get approval from someone else to do it.
When I was leased on, I negotiated the price of contract freight.

 

Why wouldnt it be? I am simply also acting as salesman for the company.

Can just anyone do this with their company, absolutely not, but the owner and i are on the same page with it, and as long as im hauling it, he has no need for input on the rate anyway, which he also wouldnt complain with because if I make money, he makes money, and i dont set rates that would suck for anyone to haul.

 

This is how it's supposed to be.

However, it's not how it is at most places. Most places "lease operator " is defined as "employee with a different pay structure ".

And that's with reputable lease terms. Don't get me started on the "yeah, you're leasing the truck, but you can't take the truck to a diffrent company" situations.

Another thing to keep in mind is this isn't just about trucking - it includes health care, IT, restaurants, mechanics, etc. The trend over the last two decades has been to either make employees salaried to avoid overtime or make them "independent contractors ". In 2019 Chevron did that with a lot of their lab workers - laid them off but immediately rehired them as "contract workers" for a modest wage increase and no benefits.

 

I seen this coming a few years ago. So I got my own authority and facilities.

WOW!!! Even though he only charged %10 plus insurance I’m making 2 or almost 3x as much as I was under his numbers.

 

Company leases the truck on. Owner becomes an employee of the company. Truck owner gets two checks, one for the truck lease and the other is their paycheck. Same as how owner operators did it back in the day being leased to union companies.

 

Yes ^^^^^^^

 

Most not all companies that you are leased to will not allow you as a rule to have the negotiating power directly with a customer albeit your customer or theirs simply because most O/O leased to companies don't have it set up for credit reports and banking. Also few if any companies are going to allow an O/O leased to them to provide insurance, and tax documents that are normally exchanged to procure the load. If the customer that the O/O leased doesn't pay the freight bill that they negotiated who does the carrier Lessor go to for payment? It's just bad business, most companies will not allow it period.

 

The 'post covid' container rush had our last free day containers running over 200 a day and guys were moving up to 4 a day.

No operator was 'punished' or somehow mis-treated for saying "I'm not doing another today"; dispatch simply moved on to the next call.

On the other hand, few guys cut their days short when there was that much freight as they wanted to maximize their income when freight was abundant.

We had our nitche in the local container market and they served it like it was theirs allowing ther carrier to maintain that spot.

As the port started imposing pollution limitations, they also 'took care of business' trading up tractors, etc. to stay competitive.

120 port operators, home every night and averaging under 50K miles a year with 6 digit 1099's.

Sounds like some smart businessmen to me.

 

When I was leased to a company there was only one check and that was made to the company, it's always been that way for me at least . And it doesn't matter whether or not I was leased to anyone. The leasing company has no say on payroll issues between company and driver.