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Hazmat containers. Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Intermodal Trucking Forum' started by JJKid, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. Sep 27, 2015 #1
    JJKid

    JJKid Medium Load Member

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    Anyone run hazmat's that involve containers?

    Company I work for just got HAZMAT Certified. They arent going to be strong on Hazmat but it's a niche and it could keep us busy when things slow down.

    They're telling me for every hazmat load I do, I'll get an additional $100 accessorial on top of the current pay for the load. Not bad. Worth it though?

    One guy at the co. already did two local runs from BNSF Elwood to Melrose Park, IL on a triaxle. His breakdown was :

    Line Haul - $217.75
    Fuel surcharge - 42.25
    Triaxle Accessorial - $75
    Hazmat Accessorial - $100
    Total: $435 per move.

    Not BAD!!! Gonna really consider doing it.... He made $870 that day with barely any fuel spent considering its local....
     
    JJKid, Sep 27, 2015
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  3. Sep 27, 2015 #2
    HorseShoe

    HorseShoe Road Train Member

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    What kind of Hazmat freight? $100 extra to take a load of paint, sure. $100 extra to take a load of radioactive trash, no thanks.
     
    HorseShoe, Sep 27, 2015
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    Big Don Thanks this.
  4. Sep 27, 2015 #3
    chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    Interesting...and a good carrier passing on the tri axle charge. Uncommon. What about the fittings? I had to buy $750 worth ...carrier provide? Scale charge? Per diem after? hours? Placarding charge for those blown off?

    Yes it's worth it but you best know your game. Tank containers are big targets in the south. Same rules for ISO tanks and domestic so...be careful. Placards have to be up high for RR entry too so you will need a step ladder.

    Hazmat is not a niche either. ( just saying ) Requires much more insurance under many more regulations. If he's telling you it's part time and he wants to toy with it ( test the waters etc) then he's not informed.

    Good luck....check back and tell us how it's going.
     
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  5. Sep 27, 2015 #4
    Steve62

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    Up here you need TDG whims and cppi to transfer port dangerous goods ie fuel. Make sure you have all your training and permits or YOU could be in a world of hurt.
     
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  7. Sep 27, 2015 #5
    201

    201 Road Train Member

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    Didn't haul that much placarded coming out of the rail yards, ( unless the placards blew off and nobody knew, or cared, it was hazardous) but took a bunch in. Now this was years ago, but we'd haul them at night, go around the scale, and put the placards on just before the yard, as we felt, ( and we all did it) a placarded container ( or Z-Van, at the time) was a rolling billboard, saying stop me. I'd never try that today, but we never got caught.
     
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  8. Sep 28, 2015 #6
    JJKid

    JJKid Medium Load Member

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    The loads he did were Class 9 (For Mel Rose Park, IL).

    I am not planning on being dedicated hazmat but if it pops up then I wouldnt mind taking it.

    They will provide us with a step ladder, WD40 and Goo Gone, scraper and placards just incase.

    I am considering this. The only thing that the driver that did those local moves, he said he is having a hard time taking them off. Is there a different way? He is using a torch to take them off. It's taking him longer to take them off then the customer unloading. Lol.
     
    JJKid, Sep 28, 2015
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  9. Oct 1, 2015 #7
    striker

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    step ladder, wd 40, scraper and elbow grease are how you remove them. Hauling HAZMAT cans is just like hauling a HAZMAT trailer, dot your i's, cross your T's, make sure all paperwork is in order and get on with it. I'm a little confused though why he got paid for the tri-axle, does he own it or was he using someone else's? If it's his, $75 is cheap, if it's someone else's, they should be paid for it not him.
     
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  10. Oct 2, 2015 #8
    RERM

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    Company we (jjkid and me) are leased on to pays us $75 for pulling their (brand new all of them) tri axles.....
     
    RERM, Oct 2, 2015
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  11. Oct 2, 2015 #9
    TROOPER to TRUCKER

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    I haul hazmat tankers from time to time. I haul a lot of non hazmat tanker containers.
     
    TROOPER to TRUCKER, Oct 2, 2015
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