help - felon wants to team w/ wife

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by sandyksalley, May 19, 2013.

  1. tracyq144

    tracyq144 Heavy Load Member

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  3. Bubbamoore

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    You are both correct in the aspect that it IS A VERY ROUGH HILL TO CLIMB. I face that mountain every day. Tonythetruckerdude, you are spot on as to doors closing in respect to the felonies. I haven't even attempted to get a hazmat,(although I found a site today that explains the "disqualifying offenses") and haven't looked into getting a twic card. As you or someone else stated earlier, I am a rookie. Just trying to survive. But I make no claims as to knowing anything more than what l learn out here everyday. I work for a cheap a-hole who yelled at me yesterday because I asked for toll money to go into Baltimore on 95 and was told I should have taken the non toll road. My inexperience told me to check my atlas and google maps for a non toll road and couldn't find one. Doors HAVE been shut. I HAVE been away from my wife and newborn twins since they were weeks old and haven't seen them in person in over two months. IT IS HARD. I deserve respect because I show respect until I feel disrespected. You've never been to prison or "seen the inside of a jail cell" so you could not possible know or understand what real prison teaches you. Ill enlighten you. 98% of offenders reoffend at some point. The reason is that prison is like a cattle wear house. They teach you nothing. You learn from others A) how to not get caught doing it again which in my seven years I realized was a fairy tale. You continue to screw up, they'll be like the motel 6and always leave the light on for you. Or B) you figure out you hafts fight everyday to climb an uphill battle that YOU Caused Yourself.
    ive made so many sacrifices and lost EVERYTHING I had simply being a stupid teenager. I'm 30 with my own family to support. At the sacrifice of having to work for this guy, eat the crap he talks, and drive a truck back and forth across the country with no AC in 102degree temps. It's NOT EASY. But it is doable.
    "I'm grumpy, hot, and missing my family, all so I can provide for them"
     
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  4. Tonythetruckerdude

    Tonythetruckerdude Crusty Deer Slayer

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    Looks like you've made up you're mind to succeed bubba. The only advice I can offer you is don't give up. Please don't succumb to the thoughts that may come into your head about it. You have a family and it seems a sort of job. Keep your record (driving that is ) squeaky clean for a few years , also don't start job hopping , that is a job killer right there all by itself. Try and find a better one than you have now of course , but find one that you can stick with for a few years. That will help you in a tremendous way if the opportunity comes along for something better. Thanks for taking the time to read my post and try and understand my view. I wish you and your family only the best in the future. Remember keep them 1st always......T
     
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  5. Ghost Ryder

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    That is not what I and others have stated. No one has judged anyone in this thread. Why y'all can't comprehend that is beyond me. If you have learned from your 'mistakes' as you call it, then good for you. You still have that felony on your record, and we are telling you that felony is going to continue to give you a hard time. You're competing against drivers like myself who never stepped foot in a jail cell, and who has also never been pulled over for a ticket. Drivers with a clean record will always get the job before someone with a questionable record. Insurance runs the show.
     
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  6. Bubbamoore

    Bubbamoore Light Load Member

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    That I have come to understand and from an economic stand point, I would do the same thing, even if that IS hypocritical. But if you read back, passing judgement, is exactly what happened. I have faced and I'm sure will continue to face an uphill battle. It can be done. I wouldn't wish the stuff I've faced on the person who lied about me TO PUT me in prison. But struggle must be my middle name.
     
  7. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Give me a break Fozzy, the word Felon today doesn't come close to meaning what it did 20-30 years ago.

    Plus, what do you feel our justice system is for? To label people for their whole life, or to correct the behavior?

    This attitude is part of the problem that drives some of them back into the life. Don't see it? Do some research.

    Those that come out and find a good job, with a company that is willing to look past their past mistakes and give them a way to earn, have a much better chance of staying on the straight and narrow.

    Condemn them for life and you give them no choice but to go back to being what they were before. That was one of the purposes of the grants that companies would get for hiring felons. That's gone now, and now watch how many wind up incarcerated all over again.
     
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  8. Ghost Ryder

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    It does, there are just so many new laws now that are felonies that weren't felonies 20-30 years ago.

    It's not a justice system. It's a legal system.

    Only those who are 'rehabilitated'. Not too many employers (the good ones anyway) will take that risk when they have a stack of applications filled with prospects who have a clean backround. If they are desperate, then perhaps they MIGHT take that chance.

    I'll agree with you here, but I think you're looking at it from the wrong prospective. Your finger needs to be pointed at the politicians who want to make everything illegal. Case in point: Marijuana

    Thank you for seeing this side of it. I wouldn't call you a hypocrite. You can see and understand both sides of the spectrum.
     
  9. chompi

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    Nobody on this forum is GOD (that I know of). These folks just came on here for a little help and advice not to be judged about what they did in their past. That's a whole other forum!

    To the husband/wife looking to team.... where there's a will, there's a way! It may take sometime and creative thinking but if you are serious about getting into trucking there is no reason you shouldn't be able to. You aren't running for the presidency! There's a way around every road block! Don't stop chasing your dreams because of what someone said.

    "Those who mind don'tmatter, and those who matter don't mind."

    Good luck to you guys if need help just holler...
     
  10. FozzyNOK

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    Only to the same segment of people who are not having to pay out when the leopard doesn't change his spots or even if the leopard has and is involved in an accident where there is loss of life or major injury / property damage the background WILL be an issue. If there is anything that a trial lawyer and an accident investigation turns up and there is a jury involved, then This is the PROBLEM with the whole felon thing. I personally do not care about the felony backgrounds as a whole, but now that I may indeed have to be called into testify in a trial where a person I hired and put to work (at fault or not) and prove to a jury (jackpot justice system) that even having this person in the truck at the time of said accident.. the standards and felonies do matter.. When there are so many choices of people who that does not come into being an issue, why take that responsibility in a deep pocketed, liability target rich environment.

    I didn't set the system up, I just have to live in the real world and don't have the luxury nor time to play mother Theresa and save the downtrodden.. Especially when in the case of felons, their status is due to their own choices in life regardless of my stance on their convictions.

    Yeah, Yeah, Mean old Fozzy because he is no willing to risk my livelihood, my companies existence and jobs of the entire workforce is causing felons to become recidivists.. Spare me while I play some durge on the violins for you.

    And in several other occupations, that can be done without the rest of the workers being threatened with their jobs disappearing if this choice of "taking a chance" on a felon blows up in the company's face. You want to gamble with your own life and job, knock yourself out. I have a responsibility to the rest of my employees and to my company as a whole to limit liability to ourselves.
    If they do, they do. That again is their choice. If you'll remember, We all had the same choices and we all had the same warnings growing up. We all even had examples in our lives of relatives or friends who did not make the right choices and ended up incarcerated and or dead due to some choice that they made. I have enough problems living my own life, when I've been told several times during my life that I should mind my own business... I do. I have no pity for people who choose the wrong path. None, whatsoever. I have plenty of pity of those who have been the victims of felons when they end up crippled, disfigured, dead or have to replace property simple because the felons WANT IT. Felons never seem to have a problem with what they are doing until the other foot drops and they get caught, tried and convicted.. Then and only then do they get this thing called "remorse" and then in a lot of the cases its an act so they can get free. The main remorse is that they got caught.. not that they dread or have any feelings whatsoever for those who's lives they have disrupted or damaged. You can cry in the river.. I won't join you.
     
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  11. ladyharrison

    ladyharrison Bobtail Member

    Here here, very well said...get to the point of the question and ommit the judgemental replies
     
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