Help: Freightliner FLD CEL & Buzzer

Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by Chadwick, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Chadwick

    Chadwick Light Load Member

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    Hey so I have a 1997 Freightliner FLD Series 60 Detroit 12.7L that I just bought. It's got a small water pump leak that I can't really afford to fix, an it's just a day cab i'm
    only local right now, I just keep an eye on the water temp gauge and I add some water and coolant every week. Anyways, last two times I drove it after awhile(both times it happened as I took an exit and came to a stop) the check engine light and oil light come on and buzzer. It did one time stop after I made a turn. Then came back on after 5 minutes. But anyways, is it a bad coolant sensor? Is the oil light universal for the coolant as well? Just the CEL and oil jerry can light come on, no engine shut down light or anything. I'm assuming the coolant sensor is going out? Any help would be greatly appreaciated. Is there a way I can shut off the CEL buzzer after it comes on? It's annoying as hell. Hope I can get this fixed. Thanks
     
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    I'm not a mechanic, but I once owned a '94 FLD with a Detroit; a low coolant level resulted in the yellow 'check engine' coming on, and red 'stop engine' after about 30 sec; at no time did the oil pressure warning (the red 'oil can' lamp) come on. The two in my truck were separate and unrelated.

    What does your oil pressure gauge read when the oil lamp lights? I assume you've verified the oil level on the dipstick. It could be an engine oil pressure problem, an oil pressure sensor, the lead to the oil pressure sensor grounding out somewhere or it could be the electronics in the light bar itself.
     
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    Yeah I've ruled out its the coolant sensor. I think it's something with oil sensor and/or wiring or yeah maybe the electronics in the bar itself...yes the oil level is full on the dipstick and the oil pressure gauge is working properly. Where would I check for the electronics in the bar? And where is an oil sensor so I can unplug the wires and see if that is the problem or not
     
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    I can't recall where the oil sensor was on my old 60 series; the Kysor light bar isn't built to be repaired, and can be expensive to replace (it contains warning and shutdown circuitry as well as controls for signal lights). With the age of the truck, you could be looking at a chafed spot in the wiring harness.
     
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    metric adjustable Light Load Member

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    Did a quick google search; the oil pressure and temp sensors should be on the driver's side of the engine block, to the rear above the bell housing and below the engine lift bracket (if you have one)
     
  7. Chadwick

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    That's what I'm thinking about the wiring be chafed. If I can unplug the oil sensor and it still goes off then its gotta be that bar. Also, now the lights and buzzer comes on when I like come to a stop and it only stays on for like 5 minutes. It's just totally random now, but always happens when I'm braking or coming to a stop...what does that make you think? Maybe more of a wiring issue with the sensor?
     
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    It would seem to be a wiring issue if it happens when braking or turning, however I understood that an oil pressure fault would cause a shutdown; if the lights and buzzer are coming on for five minutes there is something wrong with your protection system. are you able to check ecm codes with your truck?
     
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    Well I have a scan gauge it reads off OBD2 ports but I don't believe the truck has one does it? How can I check that?
     
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    Sorry about delay.. hope things are going better for ya. No, OBD2 readers won't work with DDEC ECMs (or any Class 8 ECM that i know of). My old FLD had a diagnostic switch in the lower left knee panel that would allow me to read flash (blink) codes off the CEL/shutdown lights. I would turn the ignition on, flip the diagnostic switch and the lights would flash sequences of codes with a pause between numbers. There is a thread in the Commercial truck 'garage' forum with links to many online sites that tell you what the codes mean and how to read them. The codes may be different for DDEC II/DDEC III ECMs.

    Just wondering if your system was setting a fault code; if not, it might show a fault with the Kysor warning light bar as the ECM wasn't getting a 'low oil' signal.
     
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    I found the oil sensor. And yeah I know what the diagnostic thing is its that gray circle like tab I'll have to check that out and see if it's throwing a code! Thanks!
     
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