Hey all, first off thanks for taking the time to read. I've had my CDL for going on 14 months, most of which has been flatbed work. I recently left my last company for reasons I won't mention, and over the past 2 weeks I've had a hell of a time finding local work that pays worth a #### (I've been local since CDL School). Fast forward to yesterday, I get an offer to run out in West Tx hauling Frac Sand via flatbed for AmeriField. I've never hauled frac before, but the schedule is 21 days on, 7 days off and you live in the truck the entire duration of your 21 days. According to the recruiter (we all know how that goes) there's "a lot less waiting compared to if you were pulling a pneumatic trailer." They're offering me 26% of the load, and said I'd make "great money". Now when I heard "great money" as a company driver, and from I've heard about the oil field, I'm thinking 2 grand a week at least.
But I've been reading a lot and I'm seeing a lot of drivers pulling in 200-350 a day. I don't know how that translates as most of the posts I read were pertaining to the pneumatic trailers, but I do know, if I'm going to leave my wife, and 1 year old son for 21 days, I better be making more than 200 bucks a day. They're claiming around 100-110 bucks per load to be paid to me if I remember correctly. Supposedly we have orientation in Haslet on the 2nd, then me and 7 other drivers will be running up to Tulsa in a passenger van to pick up new 2017 Kenworth T680's, then we bobtail back to Haslet, hook up to our trailers, and head out to the Midland/Odessa area.
I mention the possibility of bringing in "only 200 a day" becasue I was offered a job last night to run from Temple Tx, to Ft Worth Sunday through Thursday for a flat rate of 800 bucks to start per week but it's 1099. So it's not REALLY 800 per week in my pocket. Total trip time including unloading is around 8-9 hours. Easy work and short days, with Friday and Saturday off. But the allure of making this "great money" has me really wanting to jump in and give it a try. But I'm just not sure. Any opinions from those that are currently out in Odessa/Midland area, as that's supposed to be where I'd be heading?
Thanks,
Dave
Hesitant to make the jump. Frac Sand via flatbed for AmeriField
Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by TheyCallMeDave, Jul 25, 2017.
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I looked into a job like that in ND one time. I asked, if weather was crappy, could the off time be shifted so I didn't have to drive 450 miles home in my pickup in bad weather. The answer was nope. The driver returning from his home time needs your truck. Every time you came back to work, you got a different truck. I'd ask about that. I'm not a total neat freak by any stretch, but lets face it, some guys are pigs. Slip seating in a day cab is one thing. Slip seating a sleeper truck.....no thank you.
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So you boys are going straight from orientation to pick up brand spanking new 2017 T680s which will be assigned to you from the get go, eh?
And none of this sounds... fishy?
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Post this in the oilfield section.
There's already a bunch of guys over there talking
About this.
Supposedly they can just stack those containers
onsite, so there is no waiting to unload.
Drop a loaded,pick up a empty and haul ### back.
The 64,000 dollar question is how many loads do
They have and for how long.
A month from now you could only be working
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They're just now starting the flatbed division on the frac sand side as they primarily pull pneumatic trailers, so my assumption is the owner got ride of some older trucks and got newER tractors for this division. I don't know, I'm just throwing some ideas out. I would however say I'm skeptical of the over emphasis of "great money" by the gentleman I've been in contact with. I know good money can be made, but I also know that depends on a lot of other factors within this industry which I'm not 100% familiar with, and wouldn't pretend to be, hence my making this post.
I need good luck huh? Well, I'd gladly take it, everyone could use a little good luck from time to time, especially me these days but that's a whole different story. Do you have anything of value you could offer me in terms of experiences you've had yourself, or from anyone you know pertaining to my initial post?
Thanks,
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I believe there's another company doing
This called sand box. -
Just remember, doesn't make a difference how
They move it, its frac sand.
Here one day, gone the next.
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On the flip side, the home nightly 1099 position which is a cake job by the way, is all contract work. 99% of the company is based out of Conway Missouri, I'm the only driver from the company that would be operating in this area, and from my understanding they were on the verge of losing the contract in this area due to the last driver dropping the ball, which is why the head manager is down here looking for a replacement this week. From some of the things he's told me, it seems just as "up in the air" as the oil field situation as far being stable, then suddenly becoming non-existent, but what do I know. I just take the information I'm given and try to come to a conclusion that makes reasonable sense.
By the way, I was under the assumption I posted this in the oil field section. At least that's the section of the forum it populates when I look on my screen.
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I would listen to Western Flyer myself. ( My 2 cents ) FS is exactly what he said, here today and gone tomorrow. Just because your on 21 days doesn't mean your working all 21. The carriers mission is to cover the site with sand meaning standby....even with the swap the box gig. You have to have some place to put them and well site land is a premium during a frac.
Get on the EIA website and look at oil prices. That will drive your paycheck. It's about 46-47 today and that's barely above break even for many and too low for the majors. Many are just completing wells they drilled last year. Experts don't have oil recovering until early 2020.
Im not saying take the 1099 gig either, just passing info.
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