High Diesel prices + cheap loads WTH

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  1. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    idk. im just asking op a question. sounds to me that op will cut a driver and drive him self to save
     
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  3. clausland

    clausland Road Train Member

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    Those will be the first to go, yes, but slowly but surely the rest of us will be forced out too. Between over priced fuel, ever increasing G regulation & taxation, exorbitant insurance rates, and mega rate cutting, one man and small carriers will be forced out, just as sure as God makes little green apples.

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least, if the G soon declares there's "not enough trucks and drivers out here" and proceeds to subsidize the megas with them, along with drivers, with your tax dollars of course. Of course, you'll still have the option to fleece on with a mega and call yourself an O/O.

    Over time, it was done to the dairy industry, and now the smaller beef producer's are feeling it too. Loads and loads of payback, pork, & back door deals going on. Some folks call it crony capitalism, some call it socialism, some call it un-American, but make no mistake, big business and the DC swamp love it, tick-tock...
     
  4. Midwest Trucker

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    Right up until they go out of business and said driver has no job. I don’t see how that’s productive for anyone. Driving and the commitment a driver makes should be compensated handsomely. However, more then the owner who is on the hook for 100’s of thousands, nah. That doesn’t make long term sense. The only way that would make sense is if the driver shared in the losses when that time comes, but we all know that isn’t going to happen.
     
  5. shooter19802003

    shooter19802003 Road Train Member

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    I think alot of the non-driver "investors" are going to lose their ### here before too long. There just isn't enough to go around at that point. They all seen the good times and wanted a piece of the pie. Good news is, maybe the price of used equipment will go down.
     
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  6. skallagrime

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    Thats equally fair, (sharing losses)
    My point remains, if after all expenses (my salary truck maint, replacement included), my time and expertise is earning an employer more in **profit** than i am making, then something is wrong. I would be an idiot financially speaking to make someone else wealthier than i am making myself.

    This is subject to scaling pressures of course, so being company driver for 100 truck operation vs 4 truck, the "fair" amount changes, its also why megas just cut rates, that puts pressure on competition, but they COULD equally raise or maintain rates along with driver pay, they dont though because the incentives are to reap windfall profits and maintain shareholder profit. Loyalty to their workforce or even company legacy/stability is an afterthought. They do NOT consider their workforce to be assets or shareholders

    Dont get me wrong, profit is not a dirty word for me, certainly the risk taker (company owning truck) deserves a chunk for their work, the problem is not a question of equal pay, its a question of how wide the disparity ought to be. When the rising tide lifts all boats, fine, but if the increase is driver now gets a new car every 3 years vs 5 years and the ceo buys an extra million dollar home every year, its just not the same
     
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  7. LoneRanger

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    $3 mile is $3 mile, does it matter which direction it’s going?


    Now should be

    $4 mile is $4 mile, does it matter which direction it’s going?

    stop messing with brokers that give you the “but inbound is high thats why outbound is low bs”
     
  8. Ridgeline

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    Yeah, we’ve been hearing this since the 90’s, it hasn’t changed
     
  9. God prefers Diesels

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    I actually tell them: "Yeah, but in this particular case, inbound is low, and outbound is terrible."
     
  10. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    people don’t understand how to use the triangle or any other shape as long it’s not a round trip. Houston Outbound to LA is low? Fine go further East, or north. Find your route back to LA with all high paying freight. That low outbound will increase if these idiots don’t take it.


    My last run was Vegas to Orlando to Jacksonville, Chattanooga, Randal Ohio, Wisconsin, Vegas.

    cleared $3.9 per mile.
     
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  11. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    The only times I really don't get the rate I want, is when I'm trying to get somewhere specific. But if I keep my options open, there is a lot of money out there. And I know I'm leaving money on the table. I can sometimes be the world's worst negotiator when I'm in a good mood.
     
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