Hope this clears it up

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  1. Ryan S2016

    Ryan S2016 Medium Load Member

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    I think I may have confused everyone in my post about the GVWR and IFTA question. Let me try and explain it like this.
    The set-up I had was a 1/2 ton truck and single car hauler the total GVWR for both was around 15,000. In NC they have what are called Weighted Tags, it is an amount you pay DMV so that you can haul whatever on a trailer. Since I have my authority and a business I don't get a simple weighted tag it becomes a for-hire tag. It is the same thing a weighted tag is only difference is it's called a for-hire. Now because I knew I would never be able to carry more than 20,000 pounds both legally and physically, I still had to cover the total weight of both my truck my trailer and my cargo.
    The weight limits are incrimented based on whats available to me. When I asked what weights were next I was told the max that the current for-hire tag can be weighted for is 26,000 pounds. But my tag was already at 20,000 pounds. Obviously I need more than 26,000 pounds because the total GVWR with my new set-up is 24,000 pounds without cargo. So if I was to put anything over 2,001 pounds I am considered overweight by my registration.
    When I went to the DMV in NC that is an IRP office I was told that I had to get a new plate because the for-hire I had capped out at 26,000. So my new plate which is a NC Permenant for-hire is weighted differently. The reason I have a 40,000 pound weight on it, is not because I plan to haul 40,000 pounds obviously my truck and trailer would be grossly overweight it would be dangerous and illegal. I had no choice to go 40,000 because that is the next incriment of weight after the old tag cap of 26,000 pounds. The 40,000 pounds is the minimum amount of my new tag that is why its rated for that.
    I am at 24,000 pounds GVWR without any cargo. The plate allows for a total combined weight of 40,000 pounds. As I stated before I will not ever come close to 40,000 pounds but I can legally haul that with my current registration.
    My goal is to get time to obtain my CDL because I have two NC Transporter Plates which can be put on any vehicle that is not registered or insured and operate them legally on roads. When I get my CDL I can transport Tractor Trailers and Large RV's using these plates. I am looking into speaking with my old Repo company I worked for and a local RV Trailer sales center to move their equipment. So having 40,000 on those plates will allow that.

    So to sum it up. I am not going to haul 40,000 pounds with my truck and trailer, I had to get that listed on my DMV registration because that is the lowest amount on my tag I can get and is the next available weight I could have after 26,000. I really hope this makes sense now, I'm betting it doesn't and praying at least a couple of you will understand and know what I am doing.
     
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  3. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    You sure about that?
     
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  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    GVWR is the MAXIMUM your set-up is capable of weighing fully loaded (truck+trailer+cargo).
     
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  5. Ryan S2016

    Ryan S2016 Medium Load Member

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    which is 24,000 pounds not a pound over that .
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Why would you pay to register it for more than 15,000? That is the maximum loaded weight your truck + trailer can safely be according to the manufacturers.

    So you have a new truck & trailer. Why even mention the 1/2 ton/single car? Irrelevant at this point...but that's besides the point. The GVWR is the TOTAL WEIGHT of the truck + the trailer + the cargo. You cannot possibly have a GVWR "without the cargo". If you're talking empty weight, refer to it as such...or Tare. GVWR is the maximum allowed LOADED weight. If you're 24,000# empty, then yes, you're going to need IFTA and a CDL because your GVWR is going to exceed 26,000#. If the GVWR is 24,000#, then you'll slip in below that 26,000# threshhold.
     
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  7. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    I am pretty sure we are not the ones that are confused.
     
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  8. matski

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    ''Obviously I need more than 26,000 pounds because the total GVWR with my new set-up is 24,000 pounds without cargo. So if I was to put anything over 2,001 pounds I am considered overweight by my registration.''

    You add that 2001 lbs to your empty weight, not your GVWR. The 24,000 lbs is the maximum you can actually weigh including cargo.
     
  9. Lite bug

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    Ryan, these guys are giving the right Intel. Maybe this will help you. You know your GVWR of your truck and trailer. Have you taken your truck and trailer to the scales and got a empty weight? No mater what you intend to do in the future this is the equipment you have to work with.
     
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  10. Midwest1

    Midwest1 Medium Load Member

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    Exactly, go to a truck stop and weight your truck and trailer. This should clarify everything.
     
  11. x1Heavy

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    Which is why in a previous thread I told him if it iis heavy vehicle operations upwards of 80000 pounds he is seeking, he should discard the light stuff and go buy a 18 wheeler and get started.

    All this 40K NC tags ultimately is a waste. Stay with 24K tags or whatever it is. If NC wont do it then move to a state that will.

    Im not a expert on NC. I don't hate NC. But all of this on the new thread will simply rise up and repeat itself. And again and again. 24K that's it.
     
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