Hopper Bottum Hauling

wore out · Nov 4, 2017

joseph1853 said: ↑

Are you saying that the independents (non authority) are making as much or more then those with there own authority?
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No independent's have their own numbers pull for whomever they choose. The trucks leased on to bigger outfits usually take it on the chin. Not always but usually. Also hopper freight is usually a it pays this take it or leave it deal. No negotiations, rejected loads for any reason can help or hurt your week. Most of the time hurt, you have to deal with taking it elsewhere but at their rate. For instance, I loaded chicken meal in pocahontas Arkansas with a Rolla Missouri unload. It was rejected for being to rancid. So the company that produced it said take it to KC. When you add the agreed upon Rolla rate and the we have you by the balls rate together you come up with a regular pocahontas to KC rate. Only Rolla is well over 125 miles outta route. Lost my planned reload but I needed my trailer empty so I could move on. I'm not telling you to get your own numbers by any means just putting more info out to be thought about

joseph1853 · Nov 4, 2017

wore out said: ↑

No independent's have their own numbers pull for whomever they choose. The trucks leased on to bigger outfits usually take it on the chin. Not always but usually. Also hopper freight is usually a it pays this take it or leave it deal. No negotiations, rejected loads for any reason can help or hurt your week. Most of the time hurt, you have to deal with taking it elsewhere but at their rate. For instance, I loaded chicken meal in pocahontas Arkansas with a Rolla Missouri unload. It was rejected for being to rancid. So the company that produced it said take it to KC. When you add the agreed upon Rolla rate and the we have you by the balls rate together you come up with a regular pocahontas to KC rate. Only Rolla is well over 125 miles outta route. Lost my planned reload but I needed my trailer empty so I could move on. I'm not telling you to get your own numbers by any means just putting more info out to be thought about
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Feeling more and more like getting my own numbers is the way to go.

Seems like if you have your own truck your a step or two ahead of the company driver but that's not always the case from what I can tell (still on slippery ground).

It seems the nice thing about having your own authority is that you can haul for whoever you want. Meaning your not stuck with whatever freight the company your leased onto has. Seems like theirs much more freedom that route even though there's much more responsibility. But if your into freedom and your also OK with the extra responsibility meaning you can handle the logistics of that route then it's a good deal for you. obviously that's not always the case as most are not good with the business aspects of running your own authority. and of course the further you go the deeper the but pain it can possible be and the more money you can possible make..

uncleal13 · Nov 4, 2017

I hardly ever see vibrators around here. Would be handy for some products.

Alaskingrizzley · Feb 13, 2018

Ezrider_48501 said: ↑

main reason why i went hopper was to stay some what close to home i live in bismarck, nd i run nd sd mt mb and sk for the most part the broker i do my hopper work threw has some customers that drop very close to home a few within 20 miles and 1 that is literally about 3 blocks from my house. of course that load is normally about a 13 hour turn ill dump at 6 am head up get loaded in canada come back pull in about 7-7:30 park the truck right there at the front of where the line will be in the morning 5 min walk home. get up at 4:45 am leave the house at 5:15 there by 5:20 pre trip the truck fire it up first one to dump at 6am. for the most part ill be out all week though then get a load that drops close to home for the weekend.

nd is a pretty dead hole for outgoing freight other than hopper loads if i were to haul general freight id have to stay out longer to make it work. and by friday-sat every week im ready to get the f- out of the truck for a day.

if its not going to be profitable though don't do it. while you have guaranteed money in your pocket every week take your time and try to find something good that will turn a decent profit. its hard getting started even harder if your running for rates that produce very little profit.
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Thanks for the info.. I'm up here in Crosby looking to get into hopper . I wanna drive for someone 1st to get my feet wet then hopefully get my own. Any advice ?

Ezrider_48501 · Feb 13, 2018

i can't think of anyone i know at the moment with any trucks open at the moment. you could check bismanonline or some of the larger hopper outfits in the state. hopper isn't hard to get the hang of.

DjangoUnchained352 · Feb 27, 2018

Hey fellas I live down here in Florida and obviously we're not a grain state but would any of you guys happen to know any companies running hopper bottoms in the southeast. I see quite a few hopper bottoms down here but no companies within the state that I'm aware of.

uncleal13 · Feb 27, 2018

DjangoUnchained352 said: ↑

Hey fellas I live down here in Florida and obviously we're not a grain state but would any of you guys happen to know any companies running hopper bottoms in the southeast. I see quite a few hopper bottoms down here but no companies within the state that I'm aware of.
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I thought ADM had a large processing plant down there for lentils and soybeans. Plus there is a terminal that supplies fertilizer.

DjangoUnchained352 · Feb 27, 2018

uncleal13 said: ↑

I thought ADM had a large processing plant down there for lentils and soybeans. Plus there is a terminal that supplies fertilizer.
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Yep you're right their in Tampa I forgot about them. I'm gonna contact them this week, I really appreciate the help man

ROBTRUCKER · Mar 18, 2020

cjb logistics said: ↑

Most people charge around 1200 month on a hopper rental, so on a 20 day ave it comes to about 60.00 a day on 20 days. 3k in 5 days is a little low even at .40 cents a bushel based on 80K.
Miles on a pay week run like this for me would only be around 2000k a week.
Can get into some places quick, some you sleep at.
I parked my hopper at 1.35 running mile in July.
With Elogs and the south truckers of wall it is going to be hard with hopper, friggin Hansen and the like keep rates down because people will haul it.
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Read your post its 2020 im wondering if you feel the same im considering hopper but i can do reefer i need help deciding

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