Hopper, Dump O/O's & Drivers

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by wheathauler, May 31, 2009.

  1. M.Enterprises

    M.Enterprises Medium Load Member

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    They pretty much always have. There is always somebody, usually the press, that calls them out. Over the years there have been some funny youtube clips featuring politicians admitting all sorts of things people already know....as if they were some sort of torch-bearing prophet who came to tell us the "truth" about something.

    Speaking of which, I know I'm probably pressing my luck of being called a criminal by now...but what is to stop you from loading up to the gills with every load for routes during hours that avoid scales entirely? Suppose you could get an extra 3 tons in every load. Are we not talking about an extra $50/day here?
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Enforcement is well aware of those tactics by drivers and will set portable scales up on routes that drivers use to bypass scvales . Random stops can be made anywhere and the BOL will show the weights . The real concern isn't weight fines . Have a major accident and the plaintiff'd attorney will ask for all documentation related to that truck and driver for the past 5 years . Criminal negligence would be easily proven , adding to the amount awarded .
     
  4. wheathauler

    wheathauler Trucker

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    I agree with RickG. In Kansas they have portables and they use them. Also some elevators won't load more than 80,000 gross because of the liability.

    However saying that, I have friends who do load their trucks up. I have to admit I do sometimes especially hauling out of the fields during harvest. A farmer does not want a extra inch of space in the trailer to be empty. Constantly telling them to not put such much on.
     
  5. pullingtrucker

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    Heck I rolled into Farmland there in Hutchinson one time weighing in at 92,000 and they about shot me. It was the last load from a bin clean out and to be honest I didn't think I was that heavy...
     
  6. wheathauler

    wheathauler Trucker

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    Cargill ,at bean plant and wheat plant in Wichita, will only take trucks no heavier than 85,500. As pullingtrucker said they can get upset at any elevator if you're over 90,000.
     
  7. wheathauler

    wheathauler Trucker

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    M.Enterprises

    Do you operate Hoppers. I was thinking you do.
     
  8. PharmPhail

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    That seems risky for them to turn it away. They own the product and it's the only legal way for the truck to remedy the weight as well. Seems instructing them back on the road would be a poor choice for the receiver.
     
  9. wheathauler

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    Well Cargill only lets you load 85,500 so I guess they figure you should be at that figure. I know of one truck that had to argue a while but finally got unloaded. He was hauling for farmer so it was tough to get weight right.

    I was just thinking Pharm have you had a load rejected yet? That's always fun too.
     
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  10. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    Nope, no rejects yet. But I just delivered like my 40th load ever.

    How many in your career would you say?? Did insurance do the right thing?
     
  11. wheathauler

    wheathauler Trucker

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    Not to many rejects but enough to remember. In my case they either send you back with the load or find somewhere else to take it. If no one will take it sometimes have to bring it back where you loaded.

    The one I remember most was when rat droppings were in the grain. Man they rejected that in a flash. I only had to take it back 30 or so miles. Some I've gone to two or three places before unloading. I usually get paid good because it's the elevators fault. The elevator gets really mad when you bring one back, because it usually means something wrong with their grain.

    Recently a driver I was hauling with had one hopper accepted and the other rejected. He had to take back the half load to the elevator. Too much wheat in beans. This was at a bean plant so they are really tough.

    I'm not sure what insurance you're talking about. Cargo Insurance? That won't help you on rejected grain. At least I don't think it will, I thought that was only good if wrecked trailer and grain came out. I suppose it might if you didn't tarp and grain got ruined. Maybe some other O/O knows for sure.
     
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