HOS 60 hour7 day rule?

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  1. roadrover

    roadrover Bobtail Member

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    Could someone please explain to me how many hours or days you can run before you have to shutdown and do a restart? Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. Sublime

    Sublime Road Train Member

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    You can run to infinity as long as you don't use too many hours per day.
     
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  4. Dr_Fandango44

    Dr_Fandango44 Road Train Member

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    168 hrs and it starts from the beginning of your last 34 hr restart, NOT the end. Therefore by the time you're back to work, the minute you log in on duty you're already 34 hrs into your next series of on duty time.
    If you're on elogs it should tell you on the tablet when your next 34 hr reset starts.
     
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  5. Dr_Fandango44

    Dr_Fandango44 Road Train Member

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    Yes, we all know you can run to infinity but let's be realistic. It's not easy to do so. If you only run a few hours a day them yes, you won't need the reset, but if you do, and many drivers get this wrong, you start the reset after accumulating 168 hrs. The next 168 hrs starts from the beginning of the 34 hr reset, therefore, if you run paper logs you have to calculate your next reset. On elogs it's done for you.
    You have to be careful from where you calculate the next reset. This is where many drivers get it wrong and it will cost you valuable time. It took me a little time to fathom the solution. Thanks to QComm they figured it out for me.
    Good luck
     
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  6. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    You never have to shutdown and do a restart; a restart is optional. If you want to have a "fresh" 60/7 clock, then you may do a restart per the applicable rules. You may also to choose to continue to "run on the recap," meaning you will be recapturing hours from days worked previously as the 60/7 is a rolling 7-day period.
     
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  7. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yeah people, a common misconception is a restart is mandatory, it isn't, it's an option. If you run hard and burn hours and know you're going to continue to do so, then do a reset, so you have fresh 70 to run.
     
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  8. roadrover

    roadrover Bobtail Member

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    When you say "accumulate 168 hours", which is 7 days, are you referring to time passed or drive and on duty hours? And if you can drive to infinity and beyond what is the point of this rule? I guess I'm not getting it. Mama always says, "stupid is as stupid does."
     
  9. NewbiusErectus

    NewbiusErectus Medium Load Member

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    IMO, the easiest way to understand this is to use the recap chart in the log book. Just make some copies, fill in some hypothetical hours that you might work, and then fill in the rest of the info it asks for. It will give you all the answers. If you go over 60 hrs in 7 days, then you gotta park it.
     
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  10. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    To clarify from my previous post:
    If you are on 60/7 then you can be on-duty and/or driving for a total of 60 hours in a 7-day period (an average just over 8.5 hours per day). After 60 hours you may continue to be on-duty NOT driving, but you may not drive again until you: 1) have a 10-hour rest AND are able to "recapture" hours, OR 2) you complete a qualifying reset.

    The 168 hours refers to the minimum period of time that must pass from the beginning of one qualifying reset period to the beginning of the next qualifying reset period (which, as you've noted, is 24 x 7).

    The point of the rule is to limit the amount of driving time in a work period to a number that the FMCSA feels is safe/appropriate; rather than say, having someone drive 15 hours per day for days on end. Therefore, you cannot "drive to infinity and beyond," but you may work "to infinity and beyond."
     
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