HOS Local Driver

State lines are not a log kicker as long as you stay within the 100 mile radius. Once you go outside the circle you must log and you must show the previous 7 days. You can accomplish that with one logbook page. What the DOT is concerned about is you had a 10 hour break prior to driving outside the circle.

Let's say today is the day you have to log. The first log page would be yesterday's date and show what you have done that day as on duty not driving then show going off duty. Then down in remarks write "Local Exemption Intrastate Driving Only, 5/22/2013 thru 5/24/2013 and 5/27/2013 thru 5/28/2013, Off duty 5/25/2013 - 5/26/2013". But make sure you show a 10 hour break between last night and this morning. Also show a minimum of a 15 minute pretrip inspection on duty not driving to cover that. Then you are good to go.

 

You will have to show your hours for the past 7 days . You don't have to fill it out in a log book but should have copies of time sheets to verify it . The time cards should work as long as you clocked out before 7 p.m. the previous day .

 

Yeah that will work too if you can get copies or already have them.

 

You ONLY have to have log sheets for the days you do not qualify for the 100 mile exemption.

If, after you start your day, you find you cannot meet the exemption, then you have to go back to midnight and start that day's logs. You do not have to have your previous days, if they met the exemption. But, no not make log sheets showing off-duty for those days you met the exemption. You were not off-duty.

 

You may only need log sheets for that day but you must still show hours for the past 7 days to prove you are under 70 hours in 8 days .

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8&guidence=y

 

If they start their day at 5am how do you prove they had 10 hours off duty if you have no knowledge of the previous day?

How is it different from someone that has been off a month and starts a new job. Every company I've started with and I'm sure others will say the same is they make you fill out a log sheet for the previous 7 days.

The only way to meet that rule is to document on RODS.


A local driver is exempt from 395.8 but the moment he goes outside the circle he is held accountable for 395.8 as he is not exempt any more. He has to meet 395.8 k2



As you see question 4 and 16 are in a direct conflict with each other as #16 is suppose to mean you don't have to recap on RODS but they don't say that. A recap doesn't tell a leo your off duty time. I don't see this no different than the personal conveyance rules. The rules were put together in bits and pieces and they create grey and confusing areas. They either tell you conflicting statements or don't cover a topic thoroughly. IMO they need to rewrite them where a person doesn't have to jump around several pages to put the pieces together. If they were cut and dry they wouldn't have FAQ's with 500 questions.

Scalemaster has more thorough training but we have to live by the rules. They just enforce them. A piece of paper, do I or I don't? Filling one out isn't going to hurt a thing.

I wish Meltom would chime in. He works directly with log compliance.