HOS proposed change + 1 other thing

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by otterinthewater, May 16, 2018.

  1. 06driver

    06driver Road Train Member

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    3 hour break will suddenly mean 17 hour days every day.

    Most of these mooks can't drive after 14. Bad bill supported by an obsolete association.
     
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  3. otterinthewater

    otterinthewater Road Train Member

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    Twisted and strange like “Arrested Development” or “Twin Peaks”? LOL

    What were the 1962 version of HOS? None?
     
  4. tscottme

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    it will often take 2 years, and almost always much longer for a proposal to the FMCSA to become regs een if the industry agree and FMCSA wants to implement it.
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    This is if the FMCSA goes through the rule making process. However this does not apply if Congress changes this through a law mandating the FMCSA rewrite said rule. These processes are much different. The FAST act is such an example.
     
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  6. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Basically 8 hour breaks. !0 hours driving, NO 14 hour clock like we know it today. Also NO 34 hour resets. There was a 15 hour onduty rule but it was not enforced like this 14 hour one is today. Also if I remember right the split sleeper was easier to.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    Grab a coffee, Adobe PDF and settle in. History is now in school.

    1937 they THINK truckers and coach drivers will be tired.
    1938 they EXEMPT the entire trucking industry from overtime pay ENSURING that they will accrue more hours than any other industry in this USA.

    http://r78.info/Hours of Service Guide/HOURS OF SERVICE FACTS.pdf
     
  8. otterinthewater

    otterinthewater Road Train Member

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    So the governments main determination is to legislate longer hours over the course of the last 20 years by forcing rule changes through that are routinely thrown out by the courts.

    They legislative branch then wraps the new HOS rules in a similar package and stuffs them down the throat of the truckers.

    Good to know. I’m guessing this is done a the behest of lobbyists who are paid by the corps.

    Interesting. More driving hours = more money vs. fatigue. It must be hard to swallow shortened hours that affect your pay check. I’m not sure how I feel as an outsider...must be difficult to get everyone to agree.

    After further thought I side with safety. I wouldn’t want to risk never seeing my wife and son or causing that on someone else’s family.
     
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  9. tucker

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    At least with a 14 drivers know if they start at 4 am they will quit at 18:00 and not have to leave out til 4 am or later.
     
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  10. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    This rule doesn’t give you more drive time it just gives you a longer workday.
    And on long loads you’d rarely ever need 17 hours.
     
  11. x1Heavy

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    When I got my very first job I earned 3.35 at the Frederick Library half of every school day my senior year. Some of those books are probably still there to this day. I worked 4 hour days. So I was the theoretical rich kid.

    My first trucking job I asked how much a hour. They laughed. Told me so much from here to there loaded. Several times a day. It was not long before I was raking in about say 400 or so on good days and 160 on slow days 5 days a week. Very good money. Good enough to essentially compete with other speeders to be first at the silo. That means a extra load potentally for the day. Speeding? HA ticket = 40 dollars and a point. You can get 7 points in 18 months without being suspended. So it's a rolling system back then, loads paid between 52 dollars to 67 or so on up to 150 depending on destination. So that's where the speeding bit comes in back then.

    I moved on to percentage work. physically load 48000 onto the floor in the day, drove half the night into Hunts Point and unloaded all of that back off all that second day, gtfo out NYC deadhead west for salt due on day three AM, you slept next week. HOS? HA. Follow me?

    Then I was introduced to GM Dedicated Baltimore assembly for auto glass TEAM trainer in winter to Lexington KY and back daily. THAT was where the logs were educated into me over 5 weeks plus the worst WVa had to offer in terms of snow and mountain work then. That trainer was awesome with a kid like me. He made a monster out of me. All I needed was a stop for a hour at Burcton Mills in the morning sometime before I put in my 10 to fuel up. Looking back on that lost time, I can understand completely why he really chafed with that delay as I fueled up on that food they cooked. Whew. I'll have to check and see if that little stop is still there.

    And so on. HOURS? HA.

    Wife and I calculated 221000 miles in 9 some months flat. Engine Computer on the block says 7500 hours or so roughly. Our logs say 306 days of 24/7 work (Actually 22 hours total both people)

    0.29 a mile 67000 gross to everything actual miles.

    I don't even want to see how much below minimum wage our 306 days times 22 hours came out to divided by 67K. I don't want to do it. Im ashamed of it.
     
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