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  1. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    logbook regulations in general, paper or elogs, its all brainwashed rubbish. do i run under these regulations yes, do i think they have anything to do with safety, no.
     
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  3. KMac

    KMac Road Train Member

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    As I can think for myself, if I have time to do it 34 and choose to, what f****** business is it of yours? As you point out it's my time. The Load picked up on time and delivered on time what I do in the middle is my business. But in the course of that if I choose to do with 34 and can do it I am going to do it. Again as you say my time. Now WTF is your problem?
     
  4. Ooops

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    Again, ignore the 34 hour rule as the only thing you are protected from is refusing to operate a vehicle in an unsafe matter. Many times I have had a company send me out after 33 hours. No reset but I had hours and was well rested. It was safe to do. Had I refused, they could have fired me. Instead they fired me latter for a joke I told.

    Remember the logs are your friend but you have a duty to work as much as you can for the one paying you.[/QUOTE]

    Please tell the joke !!
     
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  5. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    logbook regulations were created to make drivers safer so they say, here we are all these yrs later with elogs still talkn about it, still talkn about truck crashes and truck fatalities, like i always say, to ask why truckers who are forced dispatched are tired is like asking why the slaves were tired back in the day. i guess maybe we do need them if drivers are dumb enough to believe everything they tell you.
     
  6. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    you were explaining how to work around the hours of service, i was explaining what rubbish logbook regulations are and why and that a good solution would be to work for a non forced dispatch company or simply tell his dispatcher where to go. he was the one who is tired. i offered my opinion. what happens when he breaks down and doesnt make the delivery because along the way he took a 34, they dont care, they want him to run just like hes running, i have done just what your talkn about, i dont disagree with it, but for me it was just exhausting, a better solution to me was to find a higher paying company and run less miles, find a company where your not forced dispatched. or get his own truck.
     
  7. KMac

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    I pulled the same trailers he does, I know this system he's working under. The regulations are what they are, we can stand and pound out heads on a wall and b**** about them all day long, but that doesn't change them. To suggest I offered his way to work within the system to get his day off and still make the delivery. Sure he could break down, and a meteor could fall on his truck also without taking a 34, both are out of the norm though.

    If I planned time for every contingency that could happen, I would never get anywhere. I don't have to agree with the regulations to work within them. And I don't have to agree with them to offer suggestions to others on how he can maximize his hours and get his rest. He doesn't seem to have a problem with my suggestion, you do.
     
  8. Fatmando

    Fatmando Medium Load Member

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    There is a phrase in the FMCSR to the effect that a carrier shall not require a driver to operate a motor vehicle while fatigued. Key words are 'fatigue', and 'shall not'. Those last two have a very specific legal definition, and that first one is what you say to dispatch/safety. If you tell them that you are 'fatigued', then they are clearly violating the FMCSR, if they continue to pressure you to drive. All sorts of terrible consequences ensue, if they get caught doing this, so make sure that you document everything from that point, forward. It may mean money, later.
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    34 Reset is voluntary, unless required by company. Company policy may be to require/avoid 34 Reset but the Regs just ALLOW you to use it or not.
     
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  10. x1Heavy

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    I just wrapped up that nomination process on Cspan not long ago. I would also do what the driver did with the unheated truck. (Ive been in some that needed repair once the shop opens in the morning. While doing what I can to preserve heat until then.) But leaving the trailer is one thing he made a mistake doing. He should have kept the rig together. (And the load?? that is probably what caused the ruling against him)

    Anyhow.

    You work. Do your best but you need a time to rest regularly. In my time there was no 34 hour reset. You ran. You have the reset, use it. Park that thing, get a rental car run around a day playing tourist or something. That is one great way to decompress and forget trucking a time or two. One of the things I used to do was road kart racing or laser games against people in teams. Things like that. It's not really resting for being active (Condrundum...) but has nothing to do with work. Therefore it's fun and restful.

    Anyhow.. Ive said enough. Don't forget to eat well, hydrate and do laundry and clear your tractor. (Disinfect etc) You will be feeling motivated after your time of rest and ready to go.

    There has been a time or two Ive done.. favors for dispatch when they really needed it. Also Ive turned down favors as well when asked for very good reasons but not necessarily reasons they want to hear or welcome. End result is a decline in relations towards your next job hunt but you don't let them walk all over you. Find one who is a good human as they say and stick with that dispatcher. It's better than having 20 different people walk all over you.
     
  11. Bean Jr.

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    His brakes froze. That's why he left the trailer.
     
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