HOS rules and working in yard.

Yes it is legal! In a yard you are not on a public way and you are not considered driving but working. So you can operate whatever you want on private property, especially your company property!. If you hit something you can sue them for asking you to operate while tiered and involve so many organisms that are concerned with labor safety!

I should learn to shut up and not teach young drivers that we live in the USA and "We have the right to not work" if we do not want to

What I am trying to say is that the company can ask you to do stuff in the yard. It is not considered driving and the 70 or 60 hours rule applies only on public highways. But you are in tilted by law at a safe working environment. If you feel unsafe moving a trailer or truck just say so!

 

Exactly! that is best example! Now if a yard dog crosses the road after 17 hours working in the yard, I think he wil have problems and the company even more if he hits someone!

 

This is totally new to me. As long as I don't leave property to get on a state road, I'm fine. Don't use no log book, just a time clock. Not like DOT is concerned with yard trucks moving trailers around. We're on private property per say. This thread did get to think for a second tho.

 

I don't know what barn does that but in Columbus (XCO) and Gary (XGH) they burn the yard up 14-16 hours per day....daily. I never ran the horse in Gary but I did in Columbus for 6 months and I made large dollars on the the OT after 8/hr a day.

 

The first qualification uses the term "involved with" interstate commerce. Is not switching wagons going out and coming in "involved with interstate commerce"?

(after further reading of the thread I guess this question has been answered)

 

PTI & PT are both line 4........30 minute break in line 1. No extension of the drive line (line 3) beyond 11 hours for those items.

(c'mon man...your making us look bad )

 

Here's a twist......placarded wagons on the yard. HAZMAT endorsement required to move them or not?

this outta get the natives fired up.......

 

Can't get the endorsement on a Class C....and to move equipment on the yard does not require a CDL. However, to take placarded equipment onto a public roadway (key word "roadway") yes a CDL with the HM endorsement would be required.

 

For the first two examples, yes you can perform work and move your truck on the property even if you are out of driving hours per HOS. Why? Because you would be inside an area that is not 'open to public travel'. Most cold storage facilities and mills do not allow the general public to drive through their loading areas.

For the third instance, dropping cars off at a dealership, you can unload your truck even if you are out of driving hours. Once the truck is unladen, you would be legal to drive the truck off-duty to get to an area where you can take your 10 hour break.

My reply that you quoted was directed to the OP, who asked if he could operate within his employer's yard even if he was out of driving hours. While he didn't specifically state if the yard was 'open to public travel', I would guess that it is not. Therefore, he could operate the yard truck legally within the yard, even if he was out of driving hours.

 

Actually, it is required to be logged as driving time and counts against your 11/14/70. But you are legal to exceed the 11/14/70 as long as you don't drive in any areas that are defined as public highways.