HOS Rules

I listened to a DOT on Lockridge's show pointing out that he'll cite a driver for putting all 10 on line 2......
His reasoning....
He claims anyone who spends more than 8 hours in the bunk is "just sick".....

This is how out of touch some people are.....

What happens if you get shut down in a blizzard for a day and a half?

Uh, by his reasoning....you would spend 8 hours in the bunk (line 2) and then go outside for 2 hours (line 1)........

 

And he would be wrong.

EDIT: Although I believe there is still some requirement regarding hazmat, but I don't haul it so I don't bother with those regs. Others here are more knowledgable about that.

 

Mostly a good post, except for the highlighted part.

That kind of systems integration simply doesn't exist. And, even if it did, looking up information on purchases made, for example, on my credit card (as I do for most of my fuel), would violate several federal laws without an attendant court-order.

Now, can they request that information? Yes. Would any vendor provide it? I expect some will and some likely won't. I know if I were a responsible vendor (and I have been, as well as working in other federally regulated industries, such as financial services), I wouldn't confirm even a name, nor a date, without a court-order.

Any particular vendor's privacy policy will be covered by federal, or state statute, and/or the fine print in any customer agreement you signed, or expressly agreed to by accepting their services.

 

About 5 years ago I got put OOS for a log book violation at the scales up on 99 near Modesto.

I always keep my log book with me even driving locally. I've been driving trucks for 16 years now. I drove mainly heavy duty tow trucks and moved heavy construction equipment.

Now I drive a F-350 Flatbed pulling a 18' commercial pressure washing trailer. My combo still requires a CDL though.

I just tell the wife or kid if they are out with me working and we go through the scales somewhere that just pray the light stays green for us going through. Even a simple DOT inspection we will be there every bit of 45 minutes.

I always make sure that everything is 100% right on equipment and my logs. It's not worth a violation at the scales. Worse yet getting put Out of Service for 10 hours.

And we all know California scales can be the worst lol.

 

As I stated have them come in for an audit and be surprised what they can do on the computer. If it's a truck related business such as a truck stop they can go in and verify the receipt. How do you think you company checks your logs? They have the printout of every purchase of your fuel card. The DOT doesn't need your credit card just the receipts and if you look at the receipt the name of where you fueled is on it. All he needs is the receipt number and the rest is easy! I've sat through it in my living room and enjoyed the education I got! And passed the audit! And this was back in 92! He just hooked to my phone line and did the old modem deal!

It's going to get worse after the first of the year. Even new O/O's can be audited within the first 6 months of start up. I have no idea how they will treat L/P drivers. But believe what you want. I just tell it like I watched it!

 

Drop and hook?

Yes! within the prescribed 15 minute increments...Less than 15 minutes, I log 15 minutes, More than 15 minutes, I log 30 minutes.

It aint rocket science.

Doors? On a flatbed? Lumper?....

But seriously, I log it as I do it. If it takes 2 hours, I log 2 hours! When I run out of hours in the day...I park it.

Why would that be so hard? You just log it as you do it...Simple!

 

I log that way also. But I was just trying to show a point to many others.

I had the dispatchers tell me that it only takes 15 minutes to pretrip a truck after it sat all weekend.

I would check all the fluids, and the hookup and the trailer. It would take 30 minutes. They were always trying to get me to change the paper so I had more hours.

 

The dispatcher has no authority to tell you how long to take for your pretrip according to the law. It is the drivers responsibility to make sure he knows that the truck is ready to roll.

Now we all know that in the real world these dispatchers will attempt to intimidate you into doing it their way...

It's your call! I do my pretrip according to my rules, not anyone elses. I will be held responsible if there is an incident and I have done a half**sed pretrip!

Nuff said!

 

I won in the end.

I do not work for them anymore.