HOS what's the point?

HOS regs or not 14 a day is plenty of hours to work at anything.
Truck to live, not live to truck.
Cleaning, both the truck and yourself takes time, enjoy a meal or two, watch a movie or catch the news.
Hell, even slaves get time off.
Guess I'm not a "real" trucker.

 

So you are saying there needs to be no rules for HOS? I'll take my info i've learned from my Dad and his 40 years plus experience he had before he retired. He remembers when brokers, dispatchers, and shippers wanted loads a 1000 miles away the next day, all the time. He, and most of the older drivers will tell you the same, when HOS started to be inforced, it was a great thing. Made the brokers, dispatchers, and shippers do there job with some respect to what a human can do.

But not all of them. I'll still have brokers who ask me all the time to run 800 miles overnight. I laugh at them.

As far as the EOBR's. When i was leased on at a major carrier. I had my dispatcher make time for me. I was in Dallas TX, and was up on my 14hr rule. He told me to drive 100 miles away to pick up my load so i did not have to sit on a holiday, and he would get it corrected monday. I did it, took 4 more hours to get it done. Monday, i called the log department , All good, no violations.

So that proved to me that EOBR's are a load of you know what. The big companys can do whatever they want with them. EOBR's in the name of saftey is the biggest lie out there right now.

 

You log out same as any breakdown. That movement is assigned to a break down reference number when it comes up on the violation report. All unlogged(as in no driver is logged in) miles would be credited to the shop account so during an audit we can honestly show every mile that truck has moved. Leaving the drive line up for editing is hard for me to believe.

Maybe our company just doesn't want the headache of explaining why there is an edit during an audit. I wouldn't blame them if that is the case. Quite simpy the appearance of impropriaty will make them dig ten times harder and waste everyones time to prove it was on the up and up.










Meltom when you edit someones drive is there a record of it occuring and a notation of system user whom did it? In addition your drivers can edit their own drive line or am I misunderstanding that part?

Just curious about the differences.

 

There is a record of what the status was, what it was changed too, by whom, and remarks are required.

We set it up (by accident, before I got there) to not have the drivers able to edit their own logs.

 

Holy crap your drivers can't edit? Man you must spend half your time changing on to off, off to sleeper, sleeper to on.........

 

The day they put an electronic log book in my truck is the day I go back to running local in the air mile radius w/o a log book. I'm all for logging legal and not driving fatigued but there's no way in HELL I'm going t sleep within 15 minutes of the house just because some computer tells me I've got to...

 

A friend of mine who recently went to work for a carrier that uses elogs is having a difficult time learning how to work with them. He has had to have them change his logs on several occasions. Part of the problem is understanding how to use the computer or log the way they want. I am not sure that he will stay with them due to the elogs. He seems much more stressed with elogs and is not getting as much rest as before using them.