HOS

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by bignick, Jan 10, 2014.

  1. bignick

    bignick Light Load Member

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    If I start my pick ups at lets say 2pm on Mondays and then fill my available 14 hours of onduty/driving time everyday constant till friday at 2pm (4 drive/on duty sessions and 4 10 hour break sessions). Can I do that every week without having to take a 34 reset?
     
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  3. Blue02celi

    Blue02celi Road Train Member

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    if you worked those days every week, you would be doing a 34 anyway....
     
  4. bignick

    bignick Light Load Member

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    I know...wasn't sure if there is a requirement on number of hours needed to classify the weekend off as a true reset.
     
  5. Blue02celi

    Blue02celi Road Train Member

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    any 34hrs that includes two periods between 1am and 5am, can only be used once a week (7 day period), if its the same days each week you're good
     
  6. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    I think it depends on whether you are on a 7/60 or 8/70 rule. If you are working on the 7/60 rule, it'd be a problem, as 5 consecutive 14 hour days will give you 70 hours. But, there's a couple of caveats to this, I think. The 7/60 and 8/70 rules are on-duty hours, not simply driving hours. Also, with the new 30 minute off duty break required with 8 or more hours of driving time, the 5 consecutive 14 hour days would actually have 2.5 hours of off-duty time (assuming you have 8 or more driving hours each day), which makes for only 67.5 on-duty hours for the 5 days of 14 hours. Also, the 14 hour rule, as I understand it, only limits your driving time, not your on-duty time. You can not legally drive past the 14th hour since you came on duty. But, you could still be on-duty if not driving and the 7/60 and 8/70 rules refer to your on-duty time, whether it is driving or not.

    Also, the limit to the 34 hour reset begins at the beginning of a reset. So, if your reset ended up lasting 37 hours, the extra 3 hours do not count toward when you can begin your next 34 hours reset. btw, 168 is an even week. So, it's kind of easy to realize that if you start your reset at 1AM on a Monday, you can't begin the next reset till at lease 1AM the following Monday. I think I understand this all correctly, but if I have something wrong, I hope someone will correct me.

    rereading your post, it doesn't sound like you'd have any problems. You say 4 days of duty, and if each of those 4 days were 14 hour on-duty days, you'd have 56 hours, below the 60 hours of the 7/60, which is what it sounds like you will be using. Also, if you are starting at 2PM, them your 14 is over at 4AM. So, your off duty, for reset purposes, time actually would begin at 4AM on Friday morning. If you don't start again till 2PM on Monday, you've accomplished an 82 hour reset. So, I don't see any HOS problems with what you describe.
     
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  7. dobbie069

    dobbie069 Bobtail Member

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    you can drive past the 14th hr if u do a split sleeper berth...know the rules
     
  8. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    It is on-duty time as well.
    Your 8 hour clock starts as soon as you go on duty.
     
    Six9GS Thanks this.
  9. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm

    From FMSCA web site:
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    Rest Breaks
    May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver’s last off-duty or sleeper-berth period of at least 30 minutes. [49 CFR 397.5 mandatory "in attendance" time may be included in break if no other duties performed]
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    So, you are right. I thought the 30 minute minimum off-duty break was only required with 8 hours of driving time and the rule actually reads as 8 hours since going on duty and does not discern whether it is driving time or not. Thanks for the correction, that's how we learn.
     
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