Hours of Service: Can I Go Over 14 Hours in the Company Yard?

DAtA Q this one!~

 

Of course you can, but you have to take in account that time working as part of the on duty time, and take your 34 after that. The on duty time can exceed the 70 but you have to reset.

 

I'll make it simple.

Yes you can.
You can't DRIVE after your 11 or 14 is exhausted, but you can stay on duty FOREVER and never quit working.
You can work until your heart pops.
Break sets.. roll freight.. do paperwork.. wash trucks.. sweep.. clean the breakroom.. probably operate a forklift.

You just can't drive that rig on a public highway until you take a 10, or a 34, and have the proper hours available on line 3.

 

You can work until Judgement Day or the Cows went home, Hell freezes over etc.

YOU DO NOT DRIVE A INCH. Until you have had total rest either in Sleeper or at home at least the require time. For the one who burnt the 70, you are finished after that work until after you have had your Reset.

We should have adopted Railroad Laws. Those are Idiot Proof Simple. Once you start, you have 16 hours.

At 15:59:59 your time is UP. Drop your work go home. Yes even the lumping. That stops.

 

Do this only for emergencies only. If you have a Qualcomm in your truck don't drive for more than four and a half minutes doesn't matter how fast you go do not exceed the four and a half minute Mark. Once you reach 4 and 1/2 minutes. Put the truck in park and let it sit for 2 minutes. Then you can drive again for another 4 and 1/2 minutes you can continue to do this without tripping the Qualcomm

 

I have a real issue with the recording yard driving as on duty (driving). There is no CDL required for moving a truck on private property -- so how can it be defined as "driving" for HOS purposes? That interpretation is also in conflict with the "yard move" work around in the ELD's, that record as on duty (not drivng).

 

My question is simple:

WHY does anyone WANT to work past 11/14?

 

When we drive it's always out and back. The more you work, the faster you get home. The guys that bust it can be home in three days, the guys that are solar powered do it in three and a half.

Some guys like the extra night away from the wife.....

 

Last week I hit the company yard at hour 13, got into the shop 15 minutes later to replace the rear turn signal (rivited in). Turned out it was a ground issue, not the light. It took an hour to isolate and fix. Thus I was past my 14 when I pulled out of the shop and parked.

I COULD have made the shop park it, but does the mechanic who has never driven anything larger than the yard dog know how to maneuver a sleeper cab and trailer? Don't know, don't want to find out either.

I also COULD have dropped my trailer, wrote up the tractor and gone to the hotel for the night. 15 minutes to pull out od the shop, drop the trailer and return. 15 minutes to set up the hotel, 30 minutes to uber over and get checked in, 30 minutes to get back the next morning, 15 minutes finding the tractor, 5 minutes to rehook the trailer. Roughly 1.5 hours of extra time spent.

I would rather cook dinner, watch Netflix, and chill for an hour in the bay. Less effort on my part, plus I eat my food and sleep in my bed instead of buying dinner and dealing with a hotel.


Or there are the "if I do it tonight then tomorrow is a whole lot easier" scenarios.

 

Thank GOD for some Common Sense finally! Life is complicated and ultimately I want to be able to relax and eat a home-cooked meal and sleep in my bed at night. That is mentally & physically much better for me than having to deal with all the stress described above. It IS a mental health issue @ that point.

The spirit of the law IS to keep people from being overworked and unsafe.

Jesus warned us about Pharisees, like the privileged FMCSA administrators with their well-appointed houses in the DC suburbs who get to go home each night and have never driven a truck in their life. Plus we pay their federal pension to top it all off!

There are just so many absurd situations like this where if you break the rules a little bit, you'll be much healthier and happier. If that is not the intent of the law, to keep people healthy and happy, than those laws have no moral legitimacy.

But we all know that the government has Badges and guns, so it's not a question of right and wrong is rather a question of do you think you can get away with it and is it worth the hassle if you got caught?

Let's stop trying to make the argument that the laws are moral and righteous, they're often not. It's simply a matter of force. That's why DOT carry guns.