Hours of Service Question

Are you running a logbook?
The team side of the regs is not my realm of experience, as I run solo.
From what I have read though, you can team in the truck if both of you run a logbook, but the other driver will have to log it all on line 4 (on duty) while sat in the passenger seat. So if he logs 11hrs on line 4, then he can legally still drive for the remaining 3 hrs taking him up to his 14hr period.
Hope that makes sense?

Martin

 

You don't need a logbook, or follow HOS; the vehicle doesn't require a CDL.

 

Over 10,001 lbs does require logs.

 

Wrong. Logbook have nothing to do with a CDL, they are for hours of service.
Only exception would be the 100 air mile radius IIRC.
If their load takes them on a 12hr drive, I would imagine that is over 100 miles myself.
In this case, where no sleeper is on the truck, the co driver should be logging his sitting time on line 4. I think I read that a team truck will be able to log off duty in the "new" HOS regulations, but right now, it's line 4 for the person not driving seeing as there is no sleeper fitted.
Just be sure to log him as a co driver on your log book, and vice versa.

Martin

 

This statement is untrue because anything over 10001 lbs is considered a commercial vehicle if it is involved in commercial activities which it sounds like the op is. So being a commercial vehicle he has to follow HOS rules and run a logbook. To the op you are fine to log that just the way you described as long as you don't go over your 14 hour window.


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This link may satisfy your boss . It states you may not drive beyond the 14th hour . The other driver may drive 3 after you drive 11 .
BUT that takes the entire 14 hours . Required pretrip time , fueling , or anything else will take available driving time from the 14 . The posttrip can be done on duty after the 14 . You can have unlimited time on duty after the end of the 14 . You just can't drive.

 

Yep. However, if I remember right, if you cross state lines, even if it's 10 miles away, this exception goes out the window and you log. I only just took this class though, but remember the topic was brought up since my class (Minneapolis area) is so close to the Wisconsin.

 

According to 395.1 there are some exceptions for driving some vehicles not requiring a CDL. I recommend you contact your local FMCSA district office to see if any of these exceptions might apply to you.