Hours of service questions and answers

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Not even close.

    Taking an eight hour break (must be continuous, must be in the sleeper) will extend the 14, not allow a "new" 14, eg.:
    • 7:00 AM on-duty. 14 will expire at 9:00 PM, 11 hours driving time available
    • 3 hours spent on-duty, not driving (just part of the example, it could be 15 minutes, could be six hours, etc.), time now 10:00 AM
    • 4 hours driving - to 2:00 PM
    • 8 hours sleeper berth - to 10:00 PM. 14 will now expire at 5:00 AM on the following day (14 - 7 hours = 7 hours available). 7 hours of driving time available (11 - 4 = 7)
    No later than 5:00 AM (but it may be earlier if he wishes) he needs to take another break of at least two continuous hours, which may be in any manner he chooses (sleeper, off duty, or combination thereof).
    • 7 hours driving to 5:00 AM
    • 2 hours off-duty to 7:00 AM
    Driver can now calculate a new 14 & 11. However, the calculation point is not from the current time of 7:00 AM, it is from the end of the previous (8-hour) break (10:00 PM). So, the new 14 expires at 12:00 noon and the maximum driving time available is 4 hours (11 - 7 hours of driving from 10 PM to 5 AM).
    • 4 hours driving to 11:00 AM
    • 1 hour off-duty to 12:00 noon
    Driver must now take either an 8-hour break in the sleeper, or 10 hours (off-duty/sleeper). If the driver takes the 8 (to 8:00 PM), then the calculation point for starting the next 14 & 11 is from the end of the previous break (2 hours, ending at 7:00 AM). This cycle continues until the driver takes a full 10 hours off-duty/sleeper. If the driver takes a 10 (to 10:00 PM), then both his 14 & 11 are "reset" and the calculation point is from 10:00 PM (not to be confused with a 34-hour reset).
     
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  3. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Yeah, you can tell a bunch of politicians wrote this worthless garbage.
     
  4. Saienga

    Saienga Medium Load Member

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    No, in fact, it was a bunch of policy makers with law degrees. They right it this way so that it can be both flexible and not ridiculously easy to dodge.
     
  5. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Policy makers with law degrees, that's what I said.
     
  6. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    They have been fine tuning the HOS regulations,

    longer than alot of you have been truck drivers.

    Been 10 years at least..........................

    and the ones from 1962 worked just fine..............10-15-and 8 off
     
  7. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Yeah because all that time hidden when they were on the dock unloading, and then sleeping over the steering wheel on off ramps, cigarette burns on the fingers from the trucker alarm clock, the koptic stare next to you at the coffee pot, the burned bridge abuttements.............



    Nothing wrong with any of that at all:biggrin_25526:
     
  8. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    When did any of that change, lol.
     
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  9. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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  10. digger_423

    digger_423 Light Load Member

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    And now that they're re-re-writing the HOS regulations, where do we stand? Any better off? Or just as big of a target for enforcement while we try and figure out how all the changes will affect us, and we can adjust to make best use of what we've been given.
     
  11. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    No telling at this point. It looks like they're going to make the changes due to political pressure, although the real-world statistics show that the desired increment in crash-reduction has already been achieved.

    My guess is that the matter will be back in court just as soon as the next revision is released - with a stay on it.
     
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