Ran a search before I posted this, but I found nothing conclusive.
Does anyone know how various engine manufacturers define "Idle hours" or how idle hours are logged in an ECM? For example, is sitting at a traffic light, truck in gear (AT) and foot on brake considered idling? What about parked, PTO engaged and running at a elevated RPM? Ever have a warranty claim denied due to excessive idling? My understanding is that FoMoCo is brutal for this.
Documentation and/or cited sources would be great. Thanks in advance!
How are Engine Idle Hours logged in the ECM on the truck?
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Regen Again?, Jan 3, 2019.
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Well I know with my Western Star it records any time you are stopped but running as idle time.
I can't idle this thing because all it ever wants to do is regen even when it's working, so I always shut it off.
But when you look at my idle time as recorded by the ECM you would think i was an idiot because it looks like I idle 7 hours a day. Any PTO time, stop lights, etc all recorded as idling.
Good way to deny you emission system warranty.Regen Again? Thanks this. -
I emailed Cummins support and asked this question. Here's the response:
"Thank you for contacting Cummins. The resolution to your inquiry, Support Request from cummins.com - A Cummins product/service, is as follows:
Low idle setting in the ecm itself is what the ecm uses as a rpm number to trigger idle time. Usually its set at 700rpm factory so anything below that is considered idle time regardless of moving or not."
Star4900, that's right in line with your post. -
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Thanks. When I idle I have it at 1000 RPM. I would need to get it reset if I need higher than that because 1000 is as high as it will let me bump it up.
And with mine, even 1000 RPM records it as idling time. It's a DD15 Detroit. -
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Ya not sure how this Detroit prints out. I'm just going off the DataStar. My dealer must be too then because they have made comments to me about the idling. And I shut it off every time I park.
Only idling is when I start it in winter to get the DEF thawing otherwise I get check engine lights as soon as I hit the highway. And the PTO time, and idling as I am getting pushed by asphalt spreaders. -
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Yes, that is most likely as my PTO's are installed by the dump body installers.
I know my Paystar was like that because i had a PTO time display on my dash that never registered anything.
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