How are freight rates determined for specific lanes?

He’s right that is exactly what ruins the market rate for that lane that area!! I really hope you’re joking though!!

 

No he's not joking... Is a truck load of Charmin Toilet paper worth any less in NY than it is in FL... NOOO

What derives the rates in FL is truck drivers who lack common sense and growing a pair to say no...
"Ive got a family to feed so ill do this load for $1 a mile this one time"... well 10 loads later...

 

Depends on how you look at it and it's an old debate and no win situation.
You are not going to convince people to skip these cheap loads based on slogans and by appealing to their chivalry. Lot's of people have chosen the model of going down to FL for enough rate to be able to bounce back to Midwest ASAP by the weekend, for whatever rate, or even deadhead, if the time is short. The assumption is that deadhead is worse than 1 dol per mile but deadhead is better, if you cannot comeback soon enough and reload.
They built their lane systems like that and those 1 dol per mile loads are amounting to an integral part of it. They need it and they will continue to take 1 dol per mile because it is a futile idea that everybody will become loyal and in some solidarity everybody will ignore these rates.
A similar, and also never ending debate is about whether or not there should be a minimum wage.

 

For example, I know a guy who loads partials for GA, SC, FL - takes him 3 - 4 days to off load and then he goes back ASAP, why would he not take a load while going back home before repeating the cycle? "Say no to cheap freight" does not concern him because at the of end of the day his all loaded miles are outstanding.
Sometimes, he gets it in Jacksonville, sometimes, he grabs something on his way up. He would still make money, if deadheaded and he does but he does not scorn a $1000, if that is a convenient load.

 

Depends on how much it cost to run his truck... Depends on how big his family is and how many bills he may have... Some guys don't need $6,000 a week to survive... Some need more... If all your gonna do is run to FL and back I think it would help to have everything paid for just in cause you have to take one of those "cheaper" loads to make extra money coming out...

Sometimes going in pays for the deadhead coming out, but not all the times

 

I get taking 3.00 a mile going down to Florida or even Texas as of late or Colorado for sure and more if I can get it also to the north east as of late!!! And I get the math that a 1.00 a mile keeps you at 2.00 or better all miles!!! However I and I maybe be coming to minority would rather bounce or deadhead to a better area and pick a good paying load and still be in the 2.00 or better per mile range than ever work a load for cheap!!

 

Sometimes going in pays for the deadhead coming out, but not all the times[/QUOTE]
Maybe I ain’t been desperate enough yet!!! Had a broker tell me yesterday I’m the reason rates go up lmao I hope so!! What kills me is there will always be freight out here!! But if guys demand the same rate coming back as they do going out!! We would all still do well!!! There’s no need to take less if you are biding your outbound freight at the right price!! That’s just my opinion I get guys are gonna do what they want!! But that thought process put a lot of guys out of business over the years!! Cause we loose customers we loose dedicated accounts!!! Then you stuck with that cheap freight now you can’t put money away to cover expenses and when you need tires or something major you have no money!!! Makes no #### sense to me but yes this has been talked about forever

 

Sure. I'd prefer to do that too. Instead of taking a load for 1000 from Atlanta to Chicago, I'd rather take a load for $900 from Nashville, TN to the same destination. That also makes me feel better but only if I have a load like that lined up already, otherwise I'll take 1000 from Atlanta. I did deadhead to Chicago from FL (once all the way - 1200 miles from Orlando), GA or PA before... as many as 700-800 miles and I did not do it to prove a point, there was either nothing to be loaded with or the loads offered would mean too much wasted time.

 

Please tell me @TallJoe you pull a van or reefer??? Please don’t tell me you pull a flat or for heavens sake not a step

 

Dry van...don't worry.