How are O/O making a living at $1.00 a mile

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Gonzo1300, Aug 17, 2017.

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  2. Sandman 660

    Sandman 660 Light Load Member

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    Swift's number scheme will tell you who's a true owner and who's a fleece purchase victim. The number is located on the fender near the steers.
    Fleece purchase numbers will start with the model year. 180456 would be a 2018 manufacturer year, truck number 456. You'll also notice back by the ferrings it'll have a sticker that says "leased to Swift"
    True owner's numbers will typically start with a 4 or a 5 and be six characters long just like the fleeced guys. And will have the same leased to Swift stickers on the ferrings or somewhere on the side.
    The company dupes all have a massive letter S decal on the side or up on the wind jammer
     
  3. win-some-loose-less

    win-some-loose-less Medium Load Member

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    All jokes and bs aside, most of us really do hope you succeed, if your half as persistent to your fleece as you are head headed about the FACTS of fleecing, you may actually beat the odds and make jct, Freymiller, I mean yourself a lot of money.. good luck
     
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  4. The Big T

    The Big T Medium Load Member

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    Braylean is with JCT? I've been following this thread a bit but must not be far back enough to see which company he is with. Thought it may have been Freymiller.
     
  5. win-some-loose-less

    win-some-loose-less Medium Load Member

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    Your right, my bad,, guess that is a little better, they all look alike.. lol
     
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  6. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    @Braylean I have a fundamental question for you.

    Could you hire a really good driver, pay him or her at a rate to make $65K a year, and STILL make at least $35K+ in net profit per year?

    That's the test. If you can't, then you bought a job. You aren't actually in business.
     
  7. Braylean

    Braylean Light Load Member

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    The mistake here is that I don't care if the company makes money, why should I give a rat's ### as long as I'm making decent money and paying the truck off doing it. I don't deny they are making as much or more than me depending on the load, I don't care. No I cannot pay a driver that and turn that much for me and neither could you buying a newer model truck. Well you probably could pulling some kind of loads, but not general reefer freight. I know what this freight pays.
    I work for Freymiller, I wouldn't work for JCT because the numbers don't work well there plus they starve you out of your truck before you can pay it off. We have several ex JCT drivers working for us. Besides the fact that I don't like their trucks nor do I like the junk light weight trucks dart pushes. With what I have planned for this truck if I leave this company in the future, the weight of it isn't going to matter.
    I don't have to be determined although I am. My dm does a good job of keeping me out of loads I don't want so I don't have to decline any and he knows exactly what it takes to make me good money and just keeps the miles rolling in. We seldom even speak to each other, maybe once every couple of weeks. It helps that my dm is the dm manager probably, but others are doing just as good with other dm's.
    What you all can't seem to grasp are these facts.... I know this system works because I have spoken to several that have paid out and one that is buying his third truck with drivers in the other two. I don't care what the company makes because I make enough to cover repairs that I'm responsible for plus a pretty decent living. I know equipment and know how to take care of it and I know my truck is worth what I'm paying for it and it's in supurb condition and I intend it to stay that way. When this truck is paid for I can buy a trailer from their lot and run at 85 percent of gross or I have connections to go straight to the oil fields Or I can trade it in and make a down payment for another. I'm not worried about my future. Some of you that think you have to make $4.00 a mile should be worried about your future though. I can understand wanting to make that much, who wouldn't? But stating I have to make that to survive is definitely a much higher risk of failure than what I'm doing. I saw allot of people lose everything they had in a matter of days for that very reason when the oil industry dried up the last time. If you have gotten yourself that far into debt, mark my words, it WILL bite you in the ### at some point. I have two accountants watching my expenses, one of which is a former IRS agent and one of about a dozen master trainers, so I'm not to worried.
     
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  8. bulldawg trucker

    bulldawg trucker Medium Load Member

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    Just to clarify I don't think you have to make $4 a mile to survive. And I can operate as low 1.60 a mile, pay myself and still have a profit for my business. The difference is I choose not to operate that low. Now when winter rolls around I may settle for lower just to keep revenue turning. But I doubt it. The difference is, I don't have to operate that low. If it ain't paying what I feel is fair at the moment then the truck can sit.

    Again I wish you luck. Some get by and make ends meet on a fleece but very few thrive on it. I didn't decide to get into this game to get by. If I wanted to do that I would have kept my desk job. But where it concerns me is all of the guys out here living in a truck pretending to be owner op, going wherever dispatch sends you, kills the rates. And for what, so you can turn the truck in with half the payments still left and needing a motor.

    Not to say that is the only force out here working against the small guys, but #### it doesn't help.

    Again good luck to you. Sincerely. Be safe out there.
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Some driver running reefer freight at a mega for a $1 a mile says he knows what it really pays o_O yeah on second thought just keep doing what you're doing.
     
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  10. Braylean

    Braylean Light Load Member

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    You know I did mention I ran hoppers and a dry box for an o/o back there some place... I have like 4 load boards on my phone and more on the laptop not to mention I still talk to my broker contracts from then, so yeah, I'll keep doing what I'm doing. You're whole comment made no sense other than tho make for a stupid attempt at a jab anyhow.
     
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