how can a 4 wheeler best help an 18 wheeler?

Lil'Devil · May 7, 2010

Bogey said: ↑

so Lil Devil, let me get this straight... I'm in back of you on a two lane highway, we're both in the right lane and I see up ahead that we're approaching an on ramp, and there's a bigrig gettin' on and needs to get into our lane. I could just screw you both by passing you slowly...you'll have to slow down to let your fellow bigrigger enter your lane...but instead I choose to get into the passing lane and hang back and let you over in front of me (I flash my brights signalling to you to come over into the left lane) According to your statement, you're likely gonna get over in front of me and instead of thanking me with your brakelight flash, you're gonna pull into the gravel in front of me, spraying me with a faceful of gravel.

I don't know what you are talking about, obviously you did not understand what I was saying,

I was not talking about someone flashing their lights to let me in in a situation like that, I am very grateful when someone lets me in and always thank them by blinking my lights.

I am talking about ######## who don't like it when you hold them up for a few seconds to pass another vehicle and they come up behind you and try to intimidate you by flashing their highbeams in your mirror, trying to tell me to get out of their way because they want to drive 30 miles over the speed limit and they think that they own the road and everyone else has to get out of their way, well #### them because I have a right to pass just as much as he does, and he can ####### wait until I finish passing. Unless it is a cop or an ambulance I am not going to speed up for him.

I see this happening more and more and am sick of idiot drivers like this.
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Lil'Devil · May 7, 2010

Roadmedic said: ↑

Strangest town I ever drove in.

Turn the blinker on and not one person accepts it. Move a bit toward the lane and it opens up.
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Exactly, anyone who has ever driven in that city knows this, I was there just the other day in bumper to bumper traffic, coming up to the end of the merge signal on and this car was insistant on not letting me in, you should see how fast they smarten up when you start to squeeze him into the wall, he backs off to let me in and everything is fine.

that is just how it is in Montreal, and people expect it. it is amazing how anybody gets to work in one piece in that city.

Infosaur · May 10, 2010

^^It's similar in NYC. Nothing to get upset over, nobody's going to hand you a writen invitation just because you put your blinker on.

Skunk_Truck_2590 · May 10, 2010

CA_Medicine_Woman said: ↑

There actually is a big difference between cell phone usage and CB radio usage while driving, but in general, two hands on the wheel is preferred. Here's an example of what happens when the driver of a car is more interested in their phone conversation than in driving their 2,000 pound missle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smDKIgg6lS8

This is actual footage from two of the three cameras in my rig. My bumper gets repaired next week, her insurance company gets to pay for it.

Anything that distracts from driving should not be done while driving, regardless of the vehicle being driven. The driver of the car was on her phone, and "didn't see the big rig."
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Yup, and stupid #### like that is exactly why I won't touch the brakes until contact has been made. Are those company mouted camera's or personal?

Ducks · May 10, 2010

Lil'Devil said: ↑

I guess you have never driven in Montreal in heavy traffic, there are a lot of merges in Montreal you have no choice but to push your over way because nobody will let you in, they do not cut you a break there. I would sit there all day waiting to "safely" make the lane change.
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No, I have not driven in Montreal traffic. But if I can't make a lane change safely, I'm not going to do it -- wherever I am.

corneileous · May 13, 2010

Infosaur said: ↑

I've said it before and I'll say it again (because it happened AGAIN this morning)

YOUR JACKED UP F-BUCK-FIFFY IS NOT A TRUCK!

Please park your rolling JC Whitney catalog up front with the REST of the 4 wheelers and stop taking up valuable Tractor Trailer spaces!
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MUAHAHAHA!!!
Rolling JC Whitney cataog??? Thats freaking hillarious.......

I'll cut some slack to the contractors pulling trailers but this chuckle-head really cheesed me off this morning. (WAWA on Rt. 30 in East PA.) I think he even pulled open my trailer door because he thought I was too close to him. I should have blocked him in untill I was finished buying MY coffee![/QUOTE]

Why would he open one of your trailer doors?? I guess Im a little confused about that part.

smerritt08 said: ↑

After reading thru this post it's obvious that truckers will never have any love for us 4-wheelers but is it really neccesary to personally insult the ones asking questions, trying to help? Insulting from either side just cancels out any progress that might be made. And granted it's probably only 1%, but there are a few of us out there that know how to share the road with ya'll. Enough from the soapbox tho, I do have a valid point to bring up.. If the DOT was really about safety, why isn't there some kind of mandatory program that would educate class D's about sharing the road with big trucks? both in the defensive driving classes you take as a teen and maybe in weekend form for the older drivers. Good driving skills aren't solely the responsibility of the big rigs
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I agree with you. But, I get just as frustrated at most 4-wheelers because most of the time, I just cant figure out if its just stupidity, lack of common sence or just lack of knowledge period for some of the things they do but before I got into the industry, I was just as bad because Ive learned quite a few things myself. Maybe they need to start teaching this stuff in the driving courses so that people understand bigrigs and why they do things a certain way and why they are incapable of doing certain things and show people what happens when you cut off an 80k bigrig who cant stop on a dime. But, do they teach that??

Lil'Devil said: ↑

When I put my turn signals on it really means that I am changing lanes and I need to get over, I will push my way into your lane until you let me in unless you want to be run off the road. And signals do not only apply to me, yours are there for a reason, use them.

I hauled loads that weigh well over 100,000 lbs, don't cut me off at the last second because you were not paying attention and missed your exit, go to the next one and turn around, I see this happen so much, is it really worth risking your life over?

Speaking of not paying attention, why doesn't everyone get their head out of their ##### and pay attention to driving, 9 times out of 10 when you look down at a car they are either on the phone or texting. Put the #### phones down.

Nothing irritates me more than when some impatient driver thinks that flashing his high beams at me is going to make me get out of his way. You will not intimidate me with your little car and your highbeams, this only makes me very mad, and if tapping the brakes does not make you back off, maybe a faceful of gravel from the shoulder will. I have just as much right to be in the left lane and pass as anyone else, and I am so tired of all these drivers and their "me first" attitude, I have seen people almost get themselves killed just to get ahead, and in the end they really do not get that far ahead because I always seem to catch up with them down the road.

Another thing that drivers just can't seem to get right is merging, either speed up and get in front of wait and get in behind because I will only get over if absolutly neccesary,

And probably the most important is to stay out of blind spots, it is not a good idea to be driving along beside a truck because there is a good chance he can not see you.
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I feel your pain man, but threating people off the road is not the way to deal with it. That just makes them do more stupid stuff that may even more get'em killed eventually.

Skunk_Truck_2590 said: ↑

How about that lazy half ### working truck driver that doesn't do his PTI and hook's to a trailer but it doesn't couple properly and you just happen to be drafting that guy's truck and the trailer decide's to make a break for it guess what! YOUR SCREWED and don't think that "oh ####" handle will do you much good! And I highly doubt in a situation like that, that you will have time to stick you head in between your leg's and kiss your ### goodbye. With such a situation a truck could make it a mile or a hundred miles down the road before it happen's.

how can a 4 wheeler best help an 18 wheeler? Stay the #### outta the way.
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No, just try to absorb every little bit of information a truckdriver gives you. Then if you still choose to drive the way you want, refer to the above comment.

Bogey · May 16, 2010

You can't be serious. The chances of a big rig going down the road and the trailer "just happens to UNHOOK from the fifth wheel?" I've never even heard of that happening except MAYBE withing the first mile of driving it. And then the likelihood of me drafting that same trailer and getting hemmed up in an accident with it? If that's what I have to worry about while drafting a truck, I'll take my chances.
If that's such a "real Possibility" maybe you 18wheelers should heed your own warnings to lowly 4wheelers and stop drafting each other. I've hardly ever drafted a truck closer than y'all do. It's actually quite often that I see a group of 3 to 5 big rigs following within 30 ft. of each other. If the front one stopped or even tapped his brakes the second or third in line would be sniffin' tail and causing a monumental pileup. But its o.k. for you, a mortal sin for us 4wheelers. I got it now.

Bogey · May 16, 2010

Furthermore, I don't get how you 18 wheelers believe that somehow an 18 wheeler is the upper echelon of truckers and everyone else that has a smaller rig is of a lesser class. The "truckers" that transport our mail and small packages in 26' box trucks or Sprinters. Dump truck drivers. F550's -750's pulling 53' carhaulers. 3/4 ton trucks pulling campers and boats. We are all just as important and necessary as each other. We have our own niche and shouldn't be knocked or degraded because that's our chosen rig. O.K. you transport 45,000 lbs or more. Woopee. When you want someone to build your home, you need a dump truck for your gravel, a busket truck for your electrician, and a toter for your Modular home or office.
When you want to go camping or boating, you sure are thankful then that a lowly pickup owner/operator transported it to your retailer. And I doubt that your package with the onboard Generator that you're relying on every night to keep cool, and the box truck that got it to you, is delivered by a trucker that you would consider to be a nuisance and that they should just stay the HALE outta your way.
The Point being, Everyone in the transportation industry, no matter how small or large their vehicles are, are needed to move our needed goods. 18wheelers are no more important than the others. Quit putting yourselves on such a high pedestal. You're not more important than any of the others. Its everyones road...

teddy_bear6506 · May 16, 2010

I only drive an expedite van, but I am becoming increasingly frustrated with inconsiderate drivers. When I merge over to let you on the highway, it is a courtesy. What frustrates me is when I try to get back over and you refuse to let me over because I am moving slower than you. I turn my signal on to indicate I want back in the slow lane, but you insist on passing me on the right.

The same holds true for when I am passing somebody who is moving slower than me. I may not be driving 75 or 80 plus in a 70 MPH zone, but I am going 65 to 68. Suddenly, there are 3 cars behind me and before I can turn my signal on to merge back into the slow lane, one of you are shooting between me and the vehicle I am passing, not allowing me to get out of your way so you can speed on past. This not only endangers myself, but also the slower moving vehicle you just cut in front of to get around me.

bs64507 · May 16, 2010

Bogey said: ↑

You can't be serious. The chances of a big rig going down the road and the trailer "just happens to UNHOOK from the fifth wheel?" I've never even heard of that happening except MAYBE withing the first mile of driving it.
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I know a driver that this happened to. Pulled his trailer 200 miles and when he pulled away from a stop light, his trailer didn't go with him.

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