How cold will it start

BS. My neighbor on truck yard showed me his fuel filter with Howes treated fuel. It was honey-like thick mud, not diesel fuel. Again, when starter cant crank engine there is nothing with Howes presence in fuel. )

 

OIC... so you "heard" from a friend that he used howes and his fuel gelled. Hmmm. Did you see it? Did he tell you what howes product he used? Did he use the correct amount for sub zero temps??

Let me break it down for you... I purchased fuel in Tennessee knowing I would be spending the next two nights in sub zero temps. I treated my fuel with howes per howes recommended dosage. My truck did not gel, it did not crank hard, it did not cough and sputter for a minute before smoothing. It started exactly the way it has started and idled every time since I've been in it.

In response to your poorly worded argument about cranking I will add to my original statement....

"Gotta love synthetic oil, Howes, and being smart enough to keep good batteries in the truck...AND clean all battery and cable connections in the fall in preparation for cold weather."

 

I'm being too lazy to go back and multi-post, but here goes:

Richter, if it started that easily, you can probably safely shut it off well below zero. Your experience echoes mine when I ran semi-synthetic in the winter, although I didn't have the AGM option back then.

Johnp3's point about high CCA batteries is true, but the AGM's don't have nearly the same concerns about shorting as a standard lead plate battery.

He didn't explain it, but his crank it and then wait works, too. It lets the heat generated during cranking soak in the the various parts of the combustion chamber, allowing the second go around to retain far more heat within the air during compression, and allowing combustion sooner than continuous cranking.

And Keith just nailed it!^

Treat your fuel.
Good batteries, starter, and connections.
Proper oil for the temp.
It will start, every time.

 

You got it Hammer. I'm anal about my electrical system. Every fall I pull every external electrical connection on the truck. Clean and reapply dielectric grease and I mean every connection, even the ECM. Batteries get sprayed with protectant as well. Generally spend an hour or so a day doing it till its done. Also every time I wash my truck I pull the battery cover so they stay as clean as can be expected. If I even suspect I have a weak battery I do a load test on all 4. I've never had to call for a jump in any weather and none of my trucks have random electrical glitches after I've went through them the first time.

 

but I read it on the internet it must be true

 

In response to YOUR poorly worded argument: batteries were swapped after unfortunate start, terminals WERE cleaned, Howes WAS in fuel (though it didnt help to my yard neighbor). The only reason it wont start was 15w-40 oil due to its thickness, not existence of howes in fuel. )

 

Yeah mine was too thick also it wouldn't turn over fast enough. Was plugged in. I shoulda covered the grill with cardboard, probably woulda helped

also the place I'm leased to has a 1000 gal diesel tank all jelled up. Guess what it was treated with, howes.

 

I remember them days with LJK in Stony Point NY. I remember 2 cans of ether 1 in each back pocket an the smoke.

 

Morons of Waste Management of Chicago fail to start their fleet till now. Today is Jan 11 and trash can is still full staying on driveway.