How common is hourly pay?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    I really dislike that you are a milkman.

    You make my job sound like the bottom of the barrel, worst possible conditions, with compensation paid in pennies, paper clips and an old gum wrapper.

    Milk hauling is not going to make anyone rich. Your boss isn't even getting rich hauling milk. You want more pay? Your going to need it when the price of milk in NY goes up to supplement the cost of hiring an expensive hauler to haul cheap agriculture products.

    You think your paid cheap? Lmao. Ask your farmers what they are currently paid. A couple years ago they were getting upwards of $22-$25 a hundred. Recently it's been down to $12-$16 a hundred. FOR THE SAME JOB!

    Please tell me how you think we need more pay in milk hauling when the #### producers aren't even making enough.

    If you don't like your conditions at your job, buck up or shut up. It's milk hauling man. You got thread after thread throwing around how much you make vs how much you need for "waiting" and at the end of the day all your doing is crying to people who don't write your checks. Go get another job that pays better, or sit there and do your job. No one is forcing you to do it.

    You are literally an embarrassment of a new driver. You have 1.4 years driving making all these demands like you know everything about the industry. Then you go on to say how you drive on the worst roads and have a smooth bore tank and you gotta wait for farmers to be done and delays at dairies and some more #### about how it's so hard to pull a milk tanker around. Jimminy crickets dude! Is there anything you DON'T ##### about?

    I'm day rate just like you, I have asscesory pay to an extent, but I give 2 free hours at the dairy, and waiting on farms.... nap time, paperwork, polish or bs with the farmer. It's literally not as bad as you are making it out to be.


    I get it though. This job is not for everyone. If it's not for you though, you don't need to ##### about it everyday. EVERY driver has #### they gotta do that they dont want to, thats trucking. Do the job you agreed to do fully or gtfo.






    I've literally never met someone who throws around how much money they make like it's candy, then #####es about it the next day, then the next day is saying how they make more than a new fuel hauler.
    WTF!?!?
     
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  3. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    PA has all sorts of sizes. I'm at 38 ft, we have 45 and 48 footers. Many of them. The 48 ft trailers do up to 72k. WE pick up some milk here in Amish country.
     
  4. special-k

    special-k Road Train Member

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    Ok thanks. Good to know, learn something new every day. Up here our farm pick up trailers are around 35' long and 6000 gallons. Easy to get around with but have a high centre of gravity so they roll around a bit until you get used to them.
     
  5. Cali kid

    Cali kid Road Train Member

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    My last two jobs have been paid by the hour with O.T. guaranteed 40hrs and pulled in over 90k and will be closer to 100k this year. They are out here but the good ones want the best of the best.
     
  6. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    I have one farm that's a problem the rest are fine. I have a babysitter that I pay by the hour. The longer I sit there the more money I loose. I know how much milk has dropped off but I also heard from one of the farmers how much they have to pay to have it hauled away. Frankly I think every job should pay by the hour. It's not my fault the weather sucks, the milk price is down, the truck breaks down, or this one farm doesn't start milking soon enough. He knows when I'm going to arrive.

    The farmers are directly to blame for the value of milk. When milk was high as you say, they kept adding cows and supply. They have overproduced milk for too long. When I worked as a receiver we would bring in surplus milk and separate the skim right to the drain. 600k lbs of skim right down the drain for weeks at a time.now when the price is down they add more cows. It's their answer to everything
     
  7. special-k

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    Hate to say it but I actually agree with you on this post.;) that being said l think your boss is dropping the ball or screwing you a bit on this farmer that holds up the show on a consistent basis. Flat rated or not he should be charging him for the trucks down time especially if you are being truthful and this is a regular thing. He has leverage because everybody and their brother doesn't have a milk tanker to leap in a take the work. Besides l'm sure the other milk haulers know about this farmer and aren't leaping at the chance to take over that work.
    Here's a farmer joke for you. What's the only business that loses money every year forever yet the owner and his kids retire to million dollar homes?... Farmers lol
     
  8. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    So if the job is not fitting your compensation needs....once again leave!

    Where does the money come from to support you at every delay you incur? You are one driver in a whole industry. That's a lot of delay and money that has to come from somewhere. Well? Where will it come from?

    Is your 2pm farmer a 3 time a day milker? 2pm makes zero sense for regular milking.

    Trust me, I know we have a surplus currently. That was the fault of a couple of farmers years ago, now every dairy farmer is paying for it. Except mega dairies. They get away with everything and nobody likes them.
     
  9. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    I don't understand the 2pm done time. Thats really confusing me.

    Between 10 day shift drivers here, all our farms are 6-9am done time.

    I'd like to hear more about this 2pm guy because there are solutions to every problem.
     
  10. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    I will do what I have to for the next couple of years. I was aware of the flaws in this industry before I took the job. The whole point of this entire thread was long term goals. Each and everyone of us has to have goals, or why do it at all?

    In general dairy kind of sucks but in the great state of ny (sarcasm) that is all we have left. The politicians have bled this area dry for far too long. No other real industry here and hasn't been for decades.
     
  11. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    Pleased to report things have been better at that farm lately. Today they were done when I arrived, the last time they were done 20 minutes after I arrived. I think my boss had a conversation with the farmer. We shall see if it sticks. Been working there since November and probably 3/4 of the time they were way late and I got nothing for it. It's really my only complaint, otherwise this job fits my family situation and my children needs. In this industry I guess that's hard
    to come by and all I can ask for at this point in my life
     
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