How disabled can you be? Any specific rules on pain meds?

I don't take opiates but I do take a stimulant so I have to deal with the drug test every time I start a new job or get pulled in for a random.

It still works the same way, let me provide a link to DOT policy directly related to the change of drugs tested.

DOT Drug Testing: Part 40 - Employee Notice

I am not claiming that opioids are safe in all cases or doses, but if you have a condition like ASD or ADHD or other conditions it is quite possible that you are using the medication in a way that will not super risky and may be much safer than being untreated. That is the point.

As that study from my previous post study pointed out most pain reasons for using opioids are probably themselves a disqualifier. But the correct way to having a secure career is to have a real conversation with your doctor and don't lie on the medical forms if they agree you are safe.

The five-day waiting period and 3rd party disclosure is another subject to how a MRO can report a safety concern to the employer after overturning a laboratory confirmed positive test. An individual who holds a valid medical prescription and has been given the okay to drive commercial vehicles will not have a failed drug result after the MRO reviews the panel.

Note: if you hide your medication use your medical is invalid as is your CDl and that is a much larger ball of wax.

This is where proactively talking to your doctor is probably the best step anyone can take.

 

Heavy a little long winded for me.....

But I don’t believe that the doctor doing the dot physical runs a check on any prescription history period......

They ask and you tell or not, Unless things have changed.

 

this information is inaccurate.
A medical doctor can certify that you are safe to drive under the prescribed medication.
At which point you can keep your meds in the cab and use as prescribed.

 

squats??

 

At this point as I pointed out that doctors letter is a LOOPHOLE to permit A OTHERWISE DISQUALIFYING medicine.

Read this again letter is at very bottom.

You will not find a single pain doctor willing to affix his DEA license and signature to such a letter to a pain patient who has a history of taking narcotics to put into a 40 ton 18 wheeler.

The rest of you thinking to tell me I am inaccurate, read this again and understand that letter from such a doctor is a BYPASS to a otherwise DISQUALIFYING medicine, in this case Narcotics. My position is set in stone. Not only that I have and am living this exact situation with my own Pain clinic doctors regarding return to trucking. They said that if I want to and am well enough I am more than welcome to go truck. But NO letters, NO medicines no nothing. End, dot. no discussion. To them narcotics + 18 wheeler = Disqualified. Is end of discussion.


What medications disqualify a CMV driver?
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A driver cannot take a controlled substance or prescription medication without a prescription from a licensed practitioner.
If a driver uses a drug identified in 21 CFR 1308.11 (391.42(b)(12)) or any other substance such as amphetamine, a narcotic, or any other habit forming drug, The driver is medically unqualified.
There is an exception: the prescribing doctor can write that the driver is safe to be a commercial driver while taking the medication. In this case, the Medical Examiner may, but does not have to certify the driver.
Any anti-seizure medication used for the prevention of seizures is disqualifying.
The Medical Examiner has 2 ways to determine if any medication a driver uses will adversely affect safe operation of a CMV:
1. Review each medication - prescription, non-prescription and supplement
2. Request a letter from the prescribing doctor

 

Yes all the way from your butt to your ankles near the ground and back up again. If your knees are less than good, you will lock in that position and have to push up or pull on something above you to get standing up again.

 

Remember I am not even introducing Pot into this. We are a medical pot state. If you are prescribed a pot card based on several specific diagnoses you are too sick to meet DOT physical and up against the Federal Schedule one absolute ban on Pot because that medicine is listed as schedule one.

However there is one workaround CBD oil. In lotion form without THC. The DEA has taken their hands off this substance and handed it to the Food and Drug Administration to regulate. In my state you can have this lotion made from Pot plants without THC and drive legally all day everywhere. Probably run a 18 wheeler too with it. The important problem is to have a supplier who is trusted not to allow THC in this substance. The second problem is that it's around 110 dollars for 500 ml lotion bottle for your skin is how you apply it. Like Lidocaine. So far there is nothing written to prevent this as a alternative to narcotics (It works for me...) and provided it has no THC in it you are good to go.

IF you did buy a supply and it does measure THC in it and it shows in your body blood test after a accident or random test etc then your supplier has screwed up by allowing THC plants or similar situation to mix in and contaiminate the process of making this lotion. And you will be disqualified and treated just like as if you took in actual Pot because that is what THC is.

My pain clinic sells this stuff freely to anyone. No cards no nothing. Just 110 dollars. I told them IF I test positive for THC with this stuff, we all sit in jail together. =) Its based in Hemp processed in Little Rock from Plants grown in Colorado. Even so I must imagine its quite a process to transport that much across the USA right now.

 

ive never been asked to do squats..

 

Doesnt mean you can avoid them in trucking

 

I run flatbed bud, I don’t get to avoid much