How do get around an ELB

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Loaderlou, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    No you did not. Or you misinterpreted it, or something. There is no 6 day exemption for ELD's There is a rolling 8 day in 30 exemption though.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    It is the motor, and it's the motor model year, not the build date. Anything with an engine model date of 2000 or newer. The ECM doesn't matter as per FMCSA's guidance. Here is the horse's mouth. If the vehicle registration for a commercial motor vehicle reflects a model year of 2000 or newer, b

    If the vehicle registration for a commercial motor vehicle reflects a model year of 2000 or newer, but the connections and motor vehicle components (such as the engine) are older than model year 2000, is the vehicle exempt from the ELD rule?
    Yes. When a vehicle is registered, the model year should follow the criteria established by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). There may be instances where the model year reflected on the vehicle registration is not the same as the engine model year, most commonly when a vehicle is rebuilt using a “glider kit.” In this circumstance, an inspector/investigator should use the model year on the engine to determine if the driver is exempt from the ELD requirements. If the engine model year is older than 2000, the driver is not subject to the ELD rule. In instances in which the engine model year is 2000 or newer, and the vehicle registration reflects a model year older than 2000, the driver is subject to the ELD rule. While the driver is not required to possess documentation that confirms the vehicle engine model year. 49 CFR Part 379 Appendix A, requires motor carriers to maintain all documentation on motor and engine changes at the principle place of business. If a determination cannot be made at the roadside, Law Enforcement should refer the case for further investigation.
     
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  4. Loaderlou

    Loaderlou Medium Load Member

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    Ok, so here's my dilemma. I leave Suffolk County Long Island at 3:30 am run out to Pittsfield Pa. get there by 6:30am, get loaded hang out for about 1/2 hour or so, head back home. Takes about 4 hours stop for lunch, then continue on to our dump site and return home, back at the yard by 1 pm. Am I good to do this everyday? We each do about 25 to 30 loads, so it takes about 45 days.
     
  5. HazmatTankerYanker

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    WELL, that's just not that true... lol
     
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  6. pmdriver

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    I know, we ran hard for many years because we wanted to make good money, we did, most of us are still here, some aint but that is life, you never know when your time is up. WE are getting scammed by the big corporations to control us because it was hurting their bottom line and also some were not very smart about it and we are paying the price for some stupid people, but it was many years of gotta get it to the receiver in time and 99.9% did make it with no problem. we have to be saved, the gooberment can do it.. Have not almost everything they have touched become a cesspool?
     
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  7. Accidental Trucker

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    Your day is 9 1/2 hours long (03:30 to 13:00 hrs). You are not violating the 14 hr rule. You are not violating the 11 hr max drive time rule. You are getting a full 10 hr break. With your coffe and lunch breaks, your on duty time is about 8.5 hrs per day, so you will never run into your 70 hr limit.

    I'd say you can run until you get tired of it...
     
  8. pmdriver

    pmdriver Road Train Member

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    Heck you can have a life being something other than a steering wheel holder then. Enjoy your family, take some classes.
     
  9. Loaderlou

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    Thanks Acci, appreciate the comeback. Even though I travel outside my state, I don't usually fill out a log book and have been running renegade thru Pa. But now I don't want to take chances so I'll have to learn the system. Thanks for your help
     
  10. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    Thats 404 rough miles... at 100 miles per hour it takes 4 hours. How do you do it in 3 hours?
     
  11. rbrtwbstr

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    If you're leaving Long island and going to Pittsfield Pa, you need a log book. It's over 100 air miles. But my guess here is you're going to Pittston Pa, which is possible in 3 hours, and probably under 100 air miles
     
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