How do get around an ELB

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Loaderlou, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    No. My 93 and 94 both have ecm's and do not require them
     
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  3. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    But the older trucks could be forced to install an embedded GPS unit that will show movement and time stamps. As the technology improves, that will be the way to enforce HOS in any vehicle.
     
  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    ...and yet it DOESN'T enforce HOS, because it ONLY knows line 3 time. Logging line 1 or 2 when you should be on line 4 is still a violation of the HOS...and these ELD's can't do a dern thing about that. In reality, my electronically tracked HOS will be LESS accurate than my paper logs, because I'm not going to go back and edit in line 4 time for things such as truck maintenance, company safety meetings, or any other work that I do outside of and/or away from the truck. Wasn't that big of a deal to draw that time in on my paper logs, so I always did...in the comfort of my office...as I got my paperwork in order to turn in. The ELD is tied to the truck, though...so any edits would have to be done there, and that just isn't going to happen. It'll log what it logs, and that's all it'll log...which makes it less accurate than my paper logs used to be. Congrats, FMCSA, on yet another misguided effort.
     
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  5. Loaderlou

    Loaderlou Medium Load Member

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    Yes, I make it in 3 hrs. Almost to the minute. Once I hit squirrel wood rd exit on 80 it 70 mph to the gap then once I crest Pocono Mt. it's 70 mph to the Pittston exit. At times it might be longer due to construction traffic but usually 3 hrs. Ok so could I get away with a paper log
     
  6. Loaderlou

    Loaderlou Medium Load Member

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    Exit 52 on the Long Island Expressway I495
     
  7. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    My understanding is if you run local, within 100 air miles, not more than 12 hours, and return to your starting location, no log book is needed. That hasn't changed.

    But if you exceed those limits, you need a log book. And paper is acceptable as long as you don't do it more than 8 days in a 30 day period, or have a truck that's older than 2000.

    That's what I understand it to be for now.
     
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