How do the stay in business?!?

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  1. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    You know, I was just thinking that too.....

    Yes. I think you'll see the megas adopt the same strategy.
     
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    trees Road Train Member

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    I think the government regulators see the mileage based pay as the real problem, and they are going to try to create regulations that make the mileage based model an ineffective way to compensate drivers. Problem is, transportation providers calculate shipping costs on a mileage basis.....
     
  4. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    If you are talking about a large company that is doing this I find it very hard to believe that it is happening on a large scale. You would have to have the fleet manager and safety agreeing to this.

    Then you have the fact that the DOT is coming into large carriers on a monthly basis and looking at these reports. I have seen the reports that all the major providers generate and unless the carrier has hacked the software abusing personal convenience is a slam dunk catch for the DOT.
     
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    Yeah, but they put their drivers in a hotel too. The run from Indy to KC was a 10 hour run. The driver would leave Indy, get to KC, stay 8 hours in a hotel, then head back to Indy. Indy to St Louis was all in a days round trip work.
     
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    Bill - I was under the impression though that the megas would only get more or less spot checked. I can't imagine DOT giving up the resources to check everyone of SNIs logs even for a month.
     
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    Thats what I thought too Bill but it's happening.
     
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    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    They don't have to check every log. In audit mode the software can generate a report showing all violations and anything else they want to see. I have had three presentation on the software and the canned report makes it a short process.

    A carrier that is in good standing (talking large carrier) may only be visited once a quarter. But if they are dealing with issues they will see them on a regular basis.
     
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    Trucks with sleepers eliminate the need for hotel rooms.

    You'll see the same kind of planning, in fact already seeing it with the regional fleet model. Difference is the EOBR, no leeway, or flexibility on these trips. In those days there were paper logs and different HOS rules. You could always show it legally on paper, as the paper allows for some variance between what actually happened and what you show on the log. With a paper log you just have to make sure that anything time stamped is logged accurately, like fueling, other things can be adjusted....like what time you stopped for the night....
     
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    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    If they are doing that can you imagine the fine? Not to mention the new conference.

    "Today the FMCSA along with (state) DOT has struck another blow to keeping fatigued drivers off the road. ...."

    If they are public I would be shorting the stock.
     
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    I'm with you Bill. I will need to see more than some forum postings to believe it's happening on a large scale. Not in today's age of youtube. If this was even a semi occurrence, it would have been recorded and posted for all to see.
     
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