How do you log a 15 min restroom stop?

pretty much log it as i go, esp fuel stops and when i have had to go through a scale house, toll booth etc. (gotta watch those time stamps.) but i do at least right down the times and mm of any accidents, or construction that screws me up, just in case i need the time back. bout the only "padding" would be if i stop for a pee, and to walk the dog, if i'm actually stopped for 20, prob log 30 maybe 45. but with my company, rarely do i have to squeeze in the 700+ miles to get the loads where they want them. (65mph truck, avg 3200 a week.)

 

When we were on paper logs our safety department required us to show 30 minute fuel stops . They rarely took that long . They also required us to average under 60 mph . I often had to not show brief rest area breaks to keep from averaging over 60 mph due to the short fuel stop .
And some of you wonder why some of us don't mind e-logs . With some ignorant safety departments you have to falsify paper logs to keep from violating their ignorant policies .

 

4 pages on a "pre-school" question?......jeez people..... Ya'll would fit in fine in a Fly J TV room.

 

I was going to ask why as an O/O you'd have a governor on your truck set to 65....but being up there in MI, Canada's BS probably has something to do with it. I wouldn't sign my truck onto any carrier which insisted I govern it down below the highest speed limit in the states where I run.

As for the e-log thing, it is going to be interesting to see how these companies are going to pull that one off and remain compliant with the leasing regulations. They cannot FORCE you to buy ANY product, equipment, or service from them as a condition of the lease.

§ 376.12 (i) Products, equipment, or services from authorized carrier. The lease shall specify that the lessor is not required to purchase or rent any products, equipment, or services from the authorized carrier as a condition of entering into the lease arrangement. The lease shall specify the terms of any agreement in which the lessor is a party to an equipment purchase or rental contract which gives the authorized carrier the right to make deductions from the lessor's compensation for purchase or rental payments.

A person shouldn't have to falsify their hours in order to make a decent living....and if you CHOOSE to donate your time to the company by logging yourself off duty when you are performing on-duty tasks, don't complain about not getting paid for everything you do. If you wouldn't get the reset with the e-logs, you shouldn't be taking the reset on paper either. The same HOS apply either way.

 

Might be a big issue already.

Qualcomm on trucks are rented on the big mega's I think.

 

If you have to stop that much then quit drinking so much liquid,lol.I would'nt log that many brks.Too many chicken scatches on the logs makes it for difficult reading for those nice dot guys.Unless you have elogs then your dispatcher my ask why you're stopping so much.Companies are funny that way.

 

I'm not a driver yet but hopefully you guys can clear something up for me. I thought once your 14hr clock started it couldn't be stopped. Am I wrong? Does going off duty for a pee break stop your 14hr clock? If it doesn't why does it matter what you log for a pee break? You only have 14 hours to work no matter what you log. Is it the fact that it affects your total hours for the week (70) ?

 

Your 14 is a window. It can be reset by a 10hr break (off duty or sleeper). It's the only thing that can stop your 14. Or an 8hr break, if you hadn't used up your 11/14 yet.

Only time spent On Duty or Driving counts against your 70.

 

Stopping for breaks, any breaks, doesn't stop 14 hour clock from winding down. Once you start the clock, your best bet is to get what you need to accomplish accomplished ASAP. Some drivers like to pull over and eat. Some like to take naps. Some like to sight see. Some like to stop and smell the roses. The 14 hour rule really hurt drivers who were productive drivers, but want to go at their own pace.

Sure, I run 11 straight because that's how I like to run, so the 14 hour rule generally doesn't bother me...but I firmly believe that a driver should be able to decide for himself whats the best way and safest way to run. There shouldn't be one fast rule that stands for all drivers because all drivers are different. If a person cannot figure out the best way and the safest way for himself to operate a bigrig, HE SHOULDNT BE DRIVING. Government handholding is not the answer. The only thing that government handholding does is allow people who need their hands held because they are too stupid to think for themselves, to have a job as a driver.

And then WE, the guys and girls who can drive, think for ourselves, be safe on any road in the world, true drivers...have to hear all the BS about "safety" and listen to reports about some stupid steeringwheelholder who ran over a family. Brings a smile to my face. That's what happens when the government tries to cheat drivers out of their wages by saying that we are not skilled labor, and making rules so that the morons of the world can qualify to drive a truck.

Yes, anyone can be taught to hold a steering wheel and pilot a truck down the road. Anyone can take a scalpel and be taught to dissect a frog. But would you trust anyone taking a scalpel to your kids?

"So how can I tell if I have what it takes to be a driver?"

A driver can drive anything anywhere at any time in any weather, New York, LA, Chicago, rain, snow and ice, any transmission configuration, no matter how big, how wide, how long, how heavy, liquid, hoods to cabovers WITHOUT BEING TRAINED. Either you can drive, or you cant.

Some people are good with numbers. Some people are good with mechanics. Some people are good at problem solving. Some people can drive. The best mechanics, the most brilliant musicians, the best leaders, the best drivers have never been to school.

"But they require us to go to school now, and ride with a trainer in order to drive a truck."

Exactly.

 

So, for all those who say don't log it, I hope you never get audited in Wyoming. Few years back, Denver to Belgrade, Mt. and back, got stopped in Sheridan, Wyo. supercoop on the way back. While checking my logs, she matched my times against prepass times Cheyenne, Sheridan NB, Billings (both directions) and the actual stop time in Sheridan. By her rough math, in a 75 mph truck, I was missing 18 minutes. Ooops, I took a 14 minute potty break at the rest area N. of Hardin, Mt. and didn't bother to log it. I still have the pink copy of the inspection report which clearly states: driver failed to log all on Line 1 thru 4 actions during his day, even a 5 minute stop should notated, even if just a straight line down with a brief note. It also earned me 10 pts on my CSA score.