How do you log a 15 min restroom stop?

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  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I think it was Wisconsin, that would sit on the on ramp or exit past and pull you over coming out of the rest area to see if it was logged.
     
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  3. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    I use my idle timer. If I don't make it back to the truck before the 5 min idle timer shuts her down, I flag the stop.
     
  4. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Did you cop to the bathroom break? If you did that was your mistake. Prepass records or not, unless your logs showed you stopped when prepass logged you, the fact that it took you 18 minutes longer to get there is irrelevant. Unless they have proof, dont own up to anything. Ran into a similar situation in Arizona. Made a 15 min stop in Eloy, Az on my way to San Simon from Phoenix. Didn't log it. Got a roadside level 3 just before my exit. The officer noted the time vs when I logged I left Phoenix. He asked if I stopped anywhere. I knew he was fishing so I told him no. Having no proof otherwise, he gave me a clean inspection on my logs.

    Remember, they have to prove these things. Just say that's how I drove it, they can bully you all they want but without proof, they got NOTHIN[/Al Capone]
     
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  5. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Good point . He could have said he got stuck behind Schneider trying to pass PRIME .
     
  6. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Exactly. The company I worked for had a former NM DOT inspector for a safety director. He said most log violations are due to the driver incriminating themselves. He even showed us a training video made for DOT inspectors on how to trip up drivers to get them to expose log violations. Best course of action is to simply state that's how the trip went. Unless you're trying to cram 1500 miles in 11 hrs or some other blatant violation, they have no proof.
     
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  7. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Others answered your questions and of course I have to give you my 2 cents,lol.Once you start the day you cannot stop your 14 hrs no matter what.Say you started at 5 am providing you don't use up your 11 rs driving then you must stop no later then 7 pm.You can log your pee brks on either line by why log it on 3 or 4 that just disturbs your 70 hrs.If you log it off duty then that saves on your 70.But with these mega companies and with all the sitting drivers do you won't have to worry about using up your 70.You'll either be taking your 34 hr reset at some stale trk stop even though you have plenty of hrs to run or be taking it while on hometime.But anything logged on lines 3 and 4 will interfere with your 70,lines 1 and 2 will not.But line 3 and4 does interfere with your 14 hrs.Who has a line 5 on their logs and what exactly is that?
     
  8. RickG

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    I have heard Line 5 is for using Personal Conveyance . For us on e-logs PC would be logged by going Off Duty and selecting Options . Personal Conveyance was among the listed options and any driving under PC would stay as off duty . However , drivers had to be sure to postrip both tractor and trailer or the e-log would switch back to driving . Once posttrips were done the e-log would not go to driving again unless a pretrip was done on the tractor . The EOBR would alert safety the tractor was moving though .
     
  9. cetanediesel

    cetanediesel Medium Load Member

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    I do not know of a state that requires you to go to school to get a class A license. That is your decision, nothing to do with the government.
     
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  10. ironpony

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    It has to do with the insurance companies... they decide who gets seat time, and who flips burgers. Want seat time? Most of 'em want to see driving school of some sort... at least for inexperienced drivers.
     
  11. RickG

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    I have always worked for smaller or private carriers and can count on one hand the drivers I worked with that had been to a CDL mill . Some of these companies trained inexperienced drivers .
     
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