How do you measure push rod stoke by your self?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by drver60021, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    i have manuals and adjust them myself
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Cjh_army Medium Load Member

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    I was referencing FMCSR 396.25(b) and (d).
     
  5. aiwiron

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    Before all the automatic brake parts came out you had to slide under the truck and trailer most times and adjust them yourself or find a mechanic, believe what he referred to.
     
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  6. dibstr

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    One brake past the adjustment limit is a violation, but will not put the vehicle OOS. Use a type 30 as an example. This carries a 2" maximum stroke. If you have one at 2 1/4"+ on a 10 brake T/T it is a violation, but not OOS. If you have 2 brakes at 2 1/4"+ on a 10 brake T/T, it puts the vehicle at 20% brake criteria and the vehicle is OOS. If a brake is shy of 2 1/4", say 2 1/8" it only counts as 1/2 a defective brake, so it would take 4 brakes at 2 1/8" to reach the 20% OOS criteria.
    Im not really certain what you mean. Stroke is how far the push rod comes out when you apply the brakes. Slack is how far the push rod comes out when you pull it with the brakes released. They are functionally the same thing.

    Absolutely no need. Hopefully we discuss and we all learn from the discussion.
    Acquire a copy of the "North American Standard Out-of-Service Criteria". It will answer many questions for you. They can be found online, and revised every April.

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  7. drver60021

    drver60021 Light Load Member

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    Thanks for your replies ill try to pull it by hand or with a screwdriver the brakes released and the vehicle chocked of course.I brought this question up because i got put oos for out of adjusted brakes and they were automatic slack adjusters i was over 2 in on each of the last axle on the trailer.I do beleive it depends on what kind of brake chamber you have that determines how far the stroke can go.Usually the steer axles are 1 in and the rest are usually 2in.Also the mechanic who came and fix my brakes told me usually when the automatic slacks go over 2 in they more then likely always need new brake shoes.Thanks and god bless.
     
  8. Allow Me.

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    Whenever I'm under there crawling around, wheels are chocked AND tranny is in gear.....engine off of course.
     
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  9. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    I am now more confused about the fmcsa oos regulations for brakes than i have ever been in my life. No offense to your post it was actually educational but how they calculate the % is confusing. Its also confusing to me that i can be fined because my brakes arent adjusted correctly and dot says i shoudlve adjusted them yet im not supposed to adjust brakes if im not qualified. Gotta love our government. Thank you for your explanations have a good one driver.
     
  10. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    if two wheels on your truck or trailer are out of adjustment, you are OOS

    and yes, you are required to check them but you are not allowed to adjust them

    dont ask me the logic behind that one

    so if you do a pretrip on a trailer and find its out of adjustment, just call TA for a road call
     
  11. EZX1100

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    yeah, i know, but as is typical, laws dont really apply to the real world

    you cant have any joker adjusting brakes, (i understand that) but to tell a guy that he cant if he can is a bit stupid
     
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