How does your company address MWH

10-4, carriers WANT a broad interpretation of PC.

However, one of these days the Feds will re-define PC, or maybe do away with it. Too much abuse and misuse.

So far I don't think it has happened yet, but heaven forbid there is a fatality accident involving a driver using PC to extend the HOS limits... I feel sorry for that driver and carrier when the Feds look into it.

 

question mr scalemaster,

I drop a trailer in the door to be loaded, and bobtail off the property. I have no responsiblity for the loading of the trailer... I drive 5 or so miles to park at the truck stop. I will return after my ten hour break is up, to hook up to a trailer, may be the same one, may not.

Does that qualify as Personal conveyance?

 

I do not see that as PC.

What would be the harm in showing driving time for 5 miles?

 

You just validated the reasons in your comment. What do you call it when you are sitting on a load for 30 hours and need to drive to lodging or more comfortable location? If using PC to do this means a break is not interrupted, what's the problem?

 

OK, I think I am almost with you on this one, so, drop the trailer, drive line 3 to the truck stop. (across town, just a few minutes, use drive time)

From there, "facilities" or "en-route lodgings", you could PC around town to eat, shop, go to the movies, etc. Stay above line 3 for the 2 days.

Then, when you head back to pick up the loaded trailer, drive line 3 to to pick it up and go on.

 

Yeah, I'm with Meltom, I really don't see the issue here?

 

Why would you need "drive time" to get to the truck stop? The customers yard is the point at which you are unladen? It is also the point at which you will reassume the load/responsibility?

 

I would think it be up to the driver to communicate with their dispatcher before they reach the point of no hrs so dispatcher can assign u a load accordingly.