How many rules/laws did I break?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by nodak63, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. VisionLogistics

    VisionLogistics Road Train Member

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    If you're using it for farm purposes only, and not for hire / engaged in commerce, you don't need a med card, nor a log book if you stay within 150 air miles from the farm. You still need to register it as a farm vehicle, same for the trailer. Also you need insurance, which will only run a few hundred bucks probably.

    If you hauled for money, you need everything a normal carrier does, for the most part. Including a DOT number, Authority, Med card, logbook, insurance, etc. etc.
     
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  3. missit

    missit Bobtail Member

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    transit permit probably but meds for sure
     
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  4. nodak63

    nodak63 Bobtail Member

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    I did have insurance, I got the VIN before I went and put it on our fleet policy for the farm. I was paid to haul the trailer, but I figured if I was pulled over I could have lied about it and said I was just doing a favor since I didn't have a contract or anything, it was just an oral agreement. I do have an appt to get my medical certificate up to date ina couple weeks and I tried to get it up to date before I left but there were no appointments (I live in a town of 1300 with one hospital).
     
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  5. VisionLogistics

    VisionLogistics Road Train Member

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    Nope. http://www.nd.gov/ndhp/faq/54

    "5. Farm vehicle drivers operating within a 150 air mile radius of their farm are exempt from CDL requirements, medical certificates, log books, and vehicle inspection records. NOTE: The CDL exemption does not allow the operation of double or triple trailers or the operation of truck/tractors by drivers under the age of 18."
     
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  6. CondoCruiser

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    The fact he hauled outside his circle and for hire puts him outside any exemption. Even if you bobtailed home the truck is considered the freight in them instances.

    The violations are too numerous to list and they would've put you out of service until you became compliant. Which operating with no medical card makes your CDL void and operating a CMV without a CDL will buy you a 1 year suspension. Also driving illegally your insurance company would pay zilch.

    You made it though. That is all that matters after the fact. Next time buy one locally or negotiate in the sale that they deliver. If they want to sell it bad enough they will deliver it.
     
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  7. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    It is only illegal if you get caught!
     
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  8. j3411

    j3411 Medium Load Member

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    Although there were a bunch them...

    You didn't get caught so actually the answer is ... none
     
  9. Florida Playboy

    Florida Playboy Road Train Member

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    He does have a CDL. Tell me this: What if a person wants to buy a class 8 bobtail and use it strictly as a personal vehicle? Not even towing any kind of trailer. Just driving it to school, grocery shopping, what have you. Would they still need apportioned plates, CDL class A, medical, and logbook? Doubt it. This case is the same he just bought what is essentially a personal vehicle and was driving it home. As long as he had a drivers license (not even a CDL) and insurance he was legal.
     
  10. Steve D

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    I think you should get yourself to the nearest DOT office, make a full confession and throw yourself on the mercy of the court. You'll feel so much better.
     
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  11. not4hire

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    No .
     
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