I run a one truck company operation with just about 100,000 miles per year. We pay the driver a salary equivalent to 55 cpm, plus retirement and medical, plus profit share. Total costs run right under 1.75 pm, depending on how I allocate some overhead expenses. The equipment isn't new by any means, but we do have quite a bit of specialized gadgets and equipment on the trailer that are plenty spendy.
Not being a common carrier does bring the insurance costs way, WAY, down.
Having our own equipment under our own control gives me a very significant leg up on the competition, and I will never be without at least some of our own equipment. It's an enormous hassle to be a DOT carrier, but worth it for us.
How much does it cost a shipper to run their own equipment?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by powerhousescott, Jul 27, 2015.
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If the private fleet can haul finished products out and raw materials back.. Then sub out loads going to areas where they have no raw materials to haul back I can see it being cheaper overall than subbing out all freight aka little Debbie's .. Frito lays are a few I see up here in Canada hauling both ways
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My brother works for a company that runs 62 trucks hauling their own products, brokers a few loads here and there to bring their trucks back when it works out. Average cost per mile is $2.25. It is cheaper for them to farm loads out to outside carriers, but there isn't enough control by doing so.
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For my guy it was very important to control the quality of the material. It had been proven time and time again a common carrier would not read the bills and the results were ahh just bad and sometimes dangerous.
Imagine losing a large customer like General Mills, or Ford or Wrangler . Plus we sold to the military.
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i have been jn many different aspects of trucking since i was young i am now 48 a fourth generation trucker and one thing i still here today that i heard clear back when i was a toddler was there is no money in trucking .well there are alot of trucks out here for none of them making any money i am now for the first time in my career classed a lease partner and yes as all of use i would love to make more money but at least i am doing what i like to do and most of the time no one looking over my shoulder.but back to scott's question i always try to bid loads higher then my cost per mile and then see what happens most of the time we get what we ask for but with everyone saying we can do it cheaper all that is happening is everyone has to work harder to get there cost per mile last week i had a broker point blank tell me he was not going to pay more then .90 cpm to move his stuff and could get it done all day for that rate
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Here is what a carrier made before deregulation average rate per mile: .98 adjusting for inflation it would be $3.51 average rate per mile today.
The owner operator leased to him at 70% average rate per mile: .68 adjusting for inflation it would be $2.49 average rate per mile today.
So we need to question ourselves why are we continually being offered rates at $.96 - $2 per mile and being told that the price of fuel going down caused the problem, or that is all that is in the load. Somebody is not being truthful and it is not I, as I have shown you the facts with this posting.
There is a contraction amongst the shipper ranks to only work with their top 10 brokers.
There is a move for capacity contracts to rule over spot contracts.
There is a move for all the little guys to fall under subjection to the Mega's (I am pretty sure that some of you are receiving the Power Only offers hot and heavy over the past two years like I have)
Mega Brokers are cutting rates left and right in each and every segment of our industry killing off the little Mom and Pop brokers and then in return cutting each other to the point that they only make $5 per load pushing a lot of paper. Some of these Mega-Brokers are actually bankers and real estate brokers that failed in their market and then choose to enter ours. They only care about one thing themselves, just look at their track record recently in 2008. They took their bailout money ran off and entered into an easier market for them to screw up, ours.
Here is an example of that, look at this company's gross income increases since around 2008. This company had a gross increase in revenue of over 200% from 2010 - 2014. Have any of you had that increase? I am not jealous of their success, more power to them, but here is the problem. When I first started pulling for them off and on in 2010 they actually had good rates, now their rates often times are bottom of cesspool. Their agents are not on the most part knowledgeable on how a trucking operation is ran. It reminds me very much of when I was a builder and broker agents and real estate agents had to schooled by me as to whether their customer could really afford to have me build them a house. You take a look and see if you agree with my observation, and please remember that this is just my opinion, but it sure looks the same to me.
http://www.tql.com/about-us/company-overview
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Dad made $25 a hour in the mid seventies as a top carpenter ., I don't see too many carpenters making $110.00 plus a hr today Nobody kept up with inflation except the top white collar people . I'm not promoting cheap freight just stating the inflation indicator may be off a bit
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My Dad made $12 per hr as an Union Residential Journeyman Carpenter in 1977 before the market started to tank then. I made $32.00 per hr as a Union Commercial Carpenter (Foreman) in 2000 so I would have to agree with you for that profession. I never did say that just truckers are getting screwed, now that you brought up the point of the other working man as well. The calculator is indeed very accurate, go do some research of Teachers wages, Police Officers, Government Officials, minimum wage, you will find in most circumstances those that their wage was associated with the Government there wages adjusted along with inflation. This is not my calculator but the US Department of Labor's. Try it again for yourself: Teachers wages from 1959 one up: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d07/tables/dt07_075.asp. My wife is a teacher so I know these numbers to be accurate.
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