I am considering PI&I Motor Express, a steel hauling company which there is not a lot of information about online, even on their website. I spoke to someone at the company yesterday, but I'm not too jazzed about what she told me so far about pay. I would have to do a three-week orientation at only $500/week, but I might be more willing to put up with that if it pays well afterwards. However, she said pay starts at 24% of the load and goes up with longevity (although I'm not sure how quickly). This seems a bit low, since most flatbed companies advertise between 26% and 28%, but maybe steel loads are more expensive? Can anyone tell me roughly how much 24% of a steel load is? I know we're in a crappy freight market, so I'm taking that into account as well.
How much is 24% of the load?
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by cdubose10, Oct 23, 2025 at 10:35 AM.
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Maverick &/or TMC would offer you different types of freight -- & thus more varied experience.
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I applied with Maverick but they rejected my application, probably because I left Decker horribly and Decker put unsavory things on my record. But I did like what I saw about Maverick; if they would have had me, I would have definitely went with them. The main thing I didn't like was the driver-facing cameras, and maybe not only Freightliners. But I did love the fair pay, the nice amenities, clear-cut structure, etc. without being too strict. (Plus you want a some strictness for flatbed training, right?)
I didn't apply with TMC because I know about their military-style company culture and I know it wouldn't be a good fit for me (plus I'd prefer an APU in the truck). Plus if Maverick won't take me, TMC probably wouldn't either. -
Nobody can tell you what 24% of the load is until we know what a given load pays. What one company hauls for a $1,000 another might be happy to haul for $500. I never cared for percentage companies as an employee or, with rare exceptions, as a leased owner operator. 99% of the time with percentage pay you just have to trust the company isn't shorting you. 99% of the time they are because it's how they do it to turn a profit. If they do provide any documentation showing load pay it's doctored up to show you what you want to see. They're annoyed you rocked the boat asking for proof because most drivers just accept them on their word.
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Back in the late 80’s / early 90’s driver % was 23% at H&W.
If the load pays $1500 to the truck then driver pay of 24% would be $360.
Truck @ $2000 would be $480 to the driver if I’m figuring correctly….cke, broke down plumber, bryan21384 and 3 others Thank this. -
Yep that's how it's figured: 1500 × .24 = 360
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Well..... 1000 x .24 = 240
1000 x .26 = 260
1000 x .28 = 280
You compare P I &I at 24 percent to other companies offering 26 to 28 percent....merely a difference of up to 40 bucks......what are we talking about? I didn't know that money up to 40 bucks is that big of a game changer.
You also said that pay goes up with longevity. So if you stay long enough, you'll get that extra 40 bucks.broke down plumber and cdubose10 Thank this. -
Hmm, I didn't think about it that way. Thanks for the insight! I'll keep that in mind.
Yeah, they said after 6 months they re-evaluate you for heavy haul loads, which costs more for the customer so they pay more.bryan21384 Thanks this. -
40 a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year, is 10k. I’d say could be a game changer but what do I know.
Ask to see an assortment of driver pay stubs with the info blocked out and that should give you a sampling of their typical wages. I don’t know their business model but one downside to percentage pay is you’re driving empty miles for free basically.cke, broke down plumber, Anywhichwaybutloose and 3 others Thank this. -
Percentage pay has so much room for dishonesty it's hard to compare % pay at one company versus another company. Even if everyone involved is 100% honest, % pay often but not always calculates % pay AFTER some expenses are deducted. Some dishonest companies show one rate to the customer to move a load of freight and a very different rate to the driver. It's much harder to compare % pay among companies than CPM, per load, or hourly pay. Percentage pay doesn't necessarily mean a company is shady or disrespecting drivers.
I cannot recommend this too strongly. Give your contact info to the company and tell them you need a newer driver and a veteran driver at the company to contact you. Then ask both drivers questions like how much did you make last week, before any deductions? How many hours did you work last week? How many loads did you move last week. How much does insurance and benefits cost you per paycheck? And any other questions you think are necessary to make a decision. DO NOT ask questions like "is this a good place to work?" D
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