How much should TONU be?

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  1. haider99

    haider99 Medium Load Member

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    I had a load cancel on me when I got to the shipper at 10 am. Shipper said it was cancelled. Found my next load about 2 hours later about 1 hour away paying $150 less then the cancelled load.

    This load was ready and I was on my way around 6 pm.

    How much TONU should I be asking for the cancelled load. This was the first load with this broker.
    I am a Canadian Carrier and it was a Canadian broker.

    Please let me know. Thanks
     
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  3. I glide 47

    I glide 47 Road Train Member

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    500 dollars us make sure that he remembers can't treat you like a stepchildren
     
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  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Yeah good luck with that after the fact. He's at their mercy now so whatever they're willing to pay. I dunno about Canada but in the US TONU is typically $150 for dry vans. Brokers like to say "$150 is the standard" but it's really whatever you can negotiate before you book the load. If you read the broker contract that you signed when you set up with this broker it will likely spell out their TONU terms.
     
  5. DrFlush

    DrFlush Road Train Member

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    US Military TONU has been $600 everytime I have gotten it. Civilians loads have been between 400 and 0. The 0 only happened once and I have refused to take their freight ever since.
     
  6. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

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    Last and only time I got burned was for $250.
     
  7. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    At least half of the original rate. Normally, TONU means you lose the whole day.
     
  8. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    Make sure it's in your contract, with time lost waiting, and time traveled. $500 seems cheap. And if it's on a Friday, or Saturday id think about triple that price. Just make sure its in writing. So ive "heard".
     
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  9. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    Agreed.

    I'm leased to a carrier and all of the brokers I use had to sign their TONU clause after some incidents I had with some of the larger unscrupulous brokers. $500,.. period.

    Helps stop the cancelling of loads at the last minute like that. And we all know why it was canceled,.. and sorry. But $75,.. $100,.. $125,.. what ever they claim is the industry standard for TONU. Not acceptable. If they wont sign the TONU clause,.. I cant use them.

    Hurst
     
  10. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    It's a bit different with the whole Canada thing considering we must abide by cabotage laws. There is not nearly the number of options you guys have staying in the USA.

    It depends on what your relationship with this broker is or what you want it to be. If you squeeze them too hard they will just put you on their do not load list which could be a whole lot of good loads you no longer have access to in the future. But don't be a pushover either, they will remember that too and use it against you in the future with lower rates.

    It depends for the reason for the cancelled load. Did they find someone cheaper? Squeeze like hell you don't want this customer anyway. If you can determine if the reason is legitimate or b.s. that will help you with your request. Typically you should expect 150 to 250.

    I had one just the other day. Customer ordered a reefer for "do not freeze" load of potato chips. Veggie or some sort I wouldn't be interested in, thought to myself these don't need heat but that's what they ordered so whatever. Arrive and shipper says they never load reefers. They try it anyway. Cannot fit in trailer. Need the few extra inches of height clearance. And this reefer is as tall inside as they make 'em. Ended up not getting loaded, blame was squarely on customer for requiring a reefer for an impossible load. It was not my fault, not brokers fault, not shippers fault, it is squarely on the customer in Toronto that was buying the chips. I learned chips do not go in reefers that day. And got 250 for my headache. Could it of been better? Yeah. Did it cost me? A bit, yeah. Do I still have a good relationship with this broker? Absolutely.

    Another time, in 2014, I had a load of apples to be picked up in pa and taken to Toronto. Get there shipper has no idea what I am there for and there is no load. Not sure where broker got information from but nothing was ready or even on the horizon for this. I was told he would pay 150. Never received it. Taught me to never consider another load from this guy. What am I going to do, cry and throw a temper tantrum? That will just raise my blood pressure unnecessarily and won't change squat. So I look at things as a learning experience.

    I think the saying don't cut off the nose to spite the face fits well for these things.
     
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  11. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    My guess is that you won't get anything. Thats how a lot of brokers do. $150 if you're lucky
     
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