Why every driver wants to be paid by the hour is beyond me. I make more getting paid percentage for my OTR loads then I would if I was paid by the hour, unless it's an ungodly amount of hours.
My currently hourly rate for local work is $18.50 an hr, my percentage is 29% of what the company charges. A recent run I did to Rio Rancho, NM and back paid me $396.75, I was gone about 22 hrs total, 13.5 hrs driving time and 3.75 hrs loading, with 2 hrs of that time being logged in the sleeper naping.
Based on that, I made $26.01 an hr, now the reality of it, even though I logged 2 of the 3.75 as sleeper, the company charged the broker for 1.75 hrs detention (we give 2 hrs free for all load/unloads). If I was paid my flat $18.50 rate I would have made $282.12.
Something to keep in mind, when you look at the wages often paid to Union or non-union drivers (UPS, Con-Way, Fedex, UPS Freight, Estes, YRC), the companies have a very tight bottom line and in most cases lose money daily. Look back at what put CF and NW out of business, overpaid drivers. Look at UPS, they turn such a tight profit margin, that a strike or work slowdown kills them. They also charge rates that are higher then what many TL carriers charge and customers pay them because they have no choice in the matter.
How to calculate your equivalent hourly pay as an OTR driver
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by passingtrucker, Nov 16, 2007.
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You cannot compare a parcel operation or a hub-spoke LTL operation to a truckload carrier.
It's apples and oranges.jakebrake12 Thanks this. -
Over paid drivers?? Herein lies the problem with this industry in general.. Why am I over paid?? I'm required by the company to hook/drop doubles, work the dock, pull a set till the road is closed, rest, and repeat the next night.. Why should I not be compensated at a fair rate for all that work since Con-way turns profits?? It's a cut-throat segment of a cut-throat industry but I'll be gosh ###### if I'm gonna let a company pimp me for fear of them going out of business.. I feel very strongly that qualified professional drivers a grossly underpaid and ######, I'll never be one of them..
We're getting back the remainder of our pay cut January, 1 as we should.. Your $396.75 sounds great but for 22 hours that would not cut it for me in any way shape or form.. Two nights of line-haul is normally around 24-25 hours for me and that's a minimum of $660 probably closer to $700 and I spend the night in the middle in my own bed.. Yeah I spend 3-4 hours on the dock nightly but I'll be ###### now the day I perform work for any company and am not compensated for it..
This is not so much directed at you but to all the drivers that continue to get pimped by companies - as long as you allow it by providing your services to them it will only get worse as more and more inexperienced drivers enter the field..
Any driver with 12 years behind the wheel should know much better than to call any driver over paid.. That statement makes me sick..already gone, Paddington, jlkklj777 and 3 others Thank this. -
All you need to do is listen to the CB to realize there are plenty of drivers who are overpaid. Or shouldn't be drawing a paycheck in the first place.jakebrake12 Thanks this.
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You do bring up a valid point that I've overlooked.. This is the reason I run the company channel now 95% of the time..
When I do flip on 19 often times my thought is what a bunch of sick freaks.. Good God, when I go by a truck stop I'm just glad I don't have to go there after hearing no panties dude followed by two lard butts duking out on the CB that would be out of breath by time they got out of the truck to actually square off..lol..
My condolences to the 20 year plus drivers or any driver for that matter that carries themselves in a professional manner at all times.. Shesus.. All kidding aside, I really do feel for the old time drivers that handle themselves in a professional manner.. Whether you like my opinions or not, I always carry myself very well in public and with 4-wheelers while doing my best to represent the industry..Paddington, funderj and already gone Thank this. -
No doubt.. What's your signature?? Log 70, work 80-100, and get paid for 50??lol..
It's an incredible thing when you log 56-66, work 56-66, and get paid for 56-66 as I know you know but many don't.. Pretty nice thing if you're gonna drive a truck isn't it..
Good luck dude and keep in touch.. Just keep us Con-way peeps in mind when you're all done with this crap alright..lol..Paddington Thanks this. -
Local gasoline drivers make more. If I worked 22 hours straight I would gross $658. The reason I liked hourly pay is because I got paid when I went through the gate and the pay stopped when I left. No free work from me. In 1998 I was making $23.50 an hour, any time over 10 hours was time and a half. I could work 12 hours a day and that would gross $270.25 a day. After 5 days of work I would gross $1504 a week. Every week I had the same days off. But then they up and closed the terminal and offered a retirement package I couldn't refuse. To be fair that job was with one of the major oil companies and they do pay the best. But you can work up into great jobs hauling fuel. I talk to my friends that are still hauling fuel and they gross anywhere from $50k to $75k a year. It just depends on how much you want to work.jakebrake12 Thanks this.
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It's sad that a lot of drivers are focused on $$$ only, but fail (or completely blind) to factor how much is it worth to come home and spend quality-time with the wife, kids, friends, and relatives. I look at the number of OTR drivers who come home to find divorce papers waiting for their signature, or learn that wife/GF is seeing someone else, because you're too focused on $$$. How many of you veteran OTR drivers reading this have children that had mixed up with the wrong crowd, and are now doing drugs or have a drinking problem? Could getting an hourly-paid job and coming home everyday to be a father to these kids would have made a difference?? Is the alimony and child support payments you're making as an OTR driver worth it? Could coming home every night and being a loving and supportive husband prevented your divorce??
Take a good look at all the truckers you see at the truck stops, and observe that the only drivers over 60 years old are owner-operators. Besides sacrificing your personal lives, you have to factor-in that trucking is an age sensitive career. When you reach your late 50s or early 60s, companies get rid of you; no one wants to hire you because you're a liability risk‼ So the only way to continue trucking is by becoming an O/O. By then, you pay high insurance premiums because your age and slower reaction-time to perceive a potential accident and react accordingly is physiologically retarded. This is a proven scientific fact, which is why pilots are forced to retire at 60. In contrast to truckers, airline pilots are well compensated to factor-in forced retirement at 60.
Guess some people must learn the error of their logic
the hard way. $$$ is all that matters to them. Putting a $$ value to how much is it worth to spend quality-time with family is a concept that is beyond their comprehension. I guess these suit-n-tie, college-educated corporate management types are correct to call us "dumb truckers" behind closed doors, or when they're at the golf course discussing ways to maximize their profit margins while playing a round of golf.
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I made this mistake in LTL.
Took a linehaul gig..on track to make $92,000/yr.
Gone from 0830 in the morning to 2230 at night.
Thankfully, FedEx Freight merged their two LTL opcos together and they offered me a severance package and I took it.
I would have dropped dead by the age of 55 a rich man had I kept going like that.
Those long hours are a killer...diabetes, heart attack...it's not worth it.
If you have a job you like and you are making decent money and it gets you home to enjoy a life outside of and away from the truck than do everything in your power to keep it.
Even if it only pays $10 bucks an hour...it's worth it.
I had a city job that I loved and I foolishly gave it up for the big bucks.jakebrake12 Thanks this. -
paddington, you were one of the fedex drivers that got cut? are you still running ltl?
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