How to tactfully back out of an orientation?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jesse24spd, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    "Be yourself"

    The worst advice I have ever received regarding going on dates. I would be a 50 year old virgin if I followed it. :D:D:D
     
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  3. plankton

    plankton Medium Load Member

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    I pretty much agree with what Chinatown has said except for this sentence. White lies are harmless lies, usually told to spare somebody's feelings. The lies that some trucking companies tell cause real harm to drivers and their families, and they are told to further the company's interests. The lies that some trucking companies tell to entice drivers are not "little white lies."
     
  4. plankton

    plankton Medium Load Member

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    also, i've never seen a thread here with so much self-righteous b.s.. When you get down to it, nobody is completely honest in everything they say and do.

    The dear poor company will not be harmed in any way by the OP telling them a little white lie so as to spare their feelings and leave open the possiblity of him working there in the future.
     
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  5. Jesse24spd

    Jesse24spd Bobtail Member

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    Have not gone to either orientation yet.
     
  6. Chinatown

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    Then you don't have any explaining to do.
     
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  7. TripleSix

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    Bad thing to do. If you 'lay bare your soul' and tell her everything, you 1.) remove all mystery 2.) are guaranteed to get the "friends" speech. Reeks of desperation. In orientation terms, that would be the guy that shows up to orientation and tells everyone in hearing distance his employment history.

    What I suggested would be the equivalent of telling the girl that you got a better offer and so you will have to cancel the date. Mystery remains and no friends speech.

    "But Six, she will be angry with you."

    We want what we cannot have and what we can have we hold in contempt.
     
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  8. Flashdrive7

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    My trucking career has broken time. I started years ago but left after a few months. A woman was involved in that. Several years later, I decided to give it another try. It was an even more distracting time. My father had become aged and totally invalid and mother was heading there as well. I actually applied, was accepted, and rode the Greyhound eight hours to the company headquarters city for training (after being away from the job I had to relearn and requalify for CDL) and orientation. Five hours after checking into the hotel I decided I couldn't leave my folks alone when they needed me the most.. A few years later, they were gone. I was free. And had been out of work for most of the time I'd been tending to elders. It didn't take long to get back to trucking, finally. I've been on the road for nearly ten years now.
    Oh. The first company I started with when I returned was the one I turned around and left when I decided to go back to take care of my parents.
     
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  9. Moose1958

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    Like this one! :downtown:
     
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  10. Moose1958

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    Your statement while technically true can lead to serious issues that (MAY) cause MAJOR problems, later on, it goes to a cynical view that everybody lies and totally warps the golden rule, to, do onto others BEFORE they do unto you!. This is hard to explain on an internet forum in a few words. Have I told lies to spare feelings? Yes, I have! I even advised a driver once to call his company, tell them he was sick when under a load so they would repower his load. He was going to just abandon the load then quit. If you search my posting history you will see I have made comments in threads to not be totally honest if you bang up a trailer! I stand by those comments. In this thread, I was not one of @Chinatown 's attackers. He and I have already debated this and both have our opinions and I think we respect each other. I do advocate being 100% truthful about anything and everything as it relates to compliance with parts 383 and 391. The best way I know to end a career before it even starts is to lie here.

    This statement is 100% true about this subject!
    While it is up to debate for some, I can attest to the fact that if a driver ever gets sent home for either telling a lie, or lying by omission, over time they can become almost unhirable if they continue doing so. This caught up to a guy I know a while back. He made up some employment history and during orientation while being interviewed could not remember what he had put on the application. He did get sent home.

    While I am NOT making any specific accusations I have often wondered just how many people that comment on these boards is actually truckers and not trucker wannabees. Most every trucker I know understands how the FMCSA and the States are enforcing these rules and the sanctions if they are violated. This is a heavily regulated industry where histories are kept today MUCH more so than 20 or 30 years ago.

    In this instance telling the truth or a fib don't really matter. The result is going to be the same. The application and the reports will find a round file. This is why I don't see any sense in being untruthful. There is just no reason to do so. In fact, what is easier than just saying I got a better offer? I have done it!
     
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  11. p608

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    Ya because lying is always a good idea.
     
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