I have a 2007 International Eagle 9200i, it has a cummins ISX signature in it.
The story is, one of my customers couldnt pay me, so I made a deal with him to take the truck instead.
When I took the truck, it had 2,075,000km on it, I have put another 300,000km on it, during that time not much has gone wrong, I put a new turbo on it, new AC compressor, new power stearing pump, no work to the engine.
The truck has a few things wrong with it, nothing major, but few small things that will add up in cost. I am concerned that if I spend money on it the engine will blow shortly after (as thats the way luck works for me)
I have no knowledge about the truck and even if the old owner told me, I wouldnt believe a word he would say. Old owner is long gone now anyway, I do believe he brought the truck brand new though
Whats the best way to see the health of the engine? It doesnt use oil, has great power and never really misses a beat.
Before I spend money on it, i would like to know the engine is in good shape and not in need of a rebuild.
I am guessing oil sample? should i take it cummins? I am in Sydney Australia
The truck is the last of the non emissions truck in australia, no EGr, No DEF etc. So I am thinking it migt be worth keeping it running
Any advice would be apprecieated
How to tell engine health un truck with unkown history
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by MTMAUS, May 27, 2021.
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Hello down under! Welcome abroad, I mean, aboard,,best way is an oil and coolant sample to be analyzed. 2 million kilometers is about 1.2 million miles, and if it was never rebuilt, you are clearly on borrowed time. The samples show metal and copper from bearings and coolant for oil. If the truck itself is okay, a rebuild shouldn't scare you, it's probably time anyway. Good luck.
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Get an oil sample kit, get the sample and send it off. I used to do this for my old Mercedes diesel car years ago. Cost was about $20 about 20 years ago, much more now.
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Oil test, dyno, and blowby are good starts. Look at hours vs miles around 11-14K per 500k is normal usage. More then that can be questionable. Also keep in mind, shops WILL miss things and if your real unlucky the seller may hide things under paint. Much more likely with how you aquired said truck. So have them check the ECM and engine for major diffrences in odometer, have them check any newly painted areas for hidden wear and/or damage, do a function test on wear parts, have them check the frame for hidden or bondo covered rust damage. Ensure the truck itself is also in good shape and there arent any major problems hidden away.
After that you can also have them scope the bores or do an overhead just to check for excessive wear and tear on it. -
Truck and body is in ok shape, I mean I have owned the truck now for 3 years, so I know the truck, i just don't know the engine.
In Australia the norm is to have a rebuild done at 1 - 1.2m kilometres, I would highly doubt it hasn't had a rebuild at some point. It now has 1.46 million miles on it. Of what I know of the company who owned it, they brought it new, ran it for 2 million kilometres (which probably means it had a rebuild at 1.2m kilometres) all interstate work, which for Australia is about 5000km a week.
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If The Truck Itself is well kept, Then yes It's well worth Keeping..
Just My 2 cents worth..spsauerland Thanks this. -
At one time I did work for a man that started trucking when he came back from WW2. He did very well over the years.
Bought the best quality - value used trucks he could find. Replaced all the normal wear and tear stuff. Had the crankshaft bearings replaced and the overhead adjusted. Replaced all the belts and coolant hoses.
Once I asked about a heater hose in the dash. It is only about 3 inches long and those almost never fail if no one messes with them. It takes about 4 hours to change it. Do you really want to do that? Yes all the hoses and the heater valve while you are there.
There were other things to his program but when completed he would put them on the road.
Another company I was employed by bought new trucks. They are no longer in business. Never ran the overhead if there was not a problem. Did engine oil samples on all trucks over three years old. A 5 year old came in with massive blow by and the driver adding lots of oil. It was sent to Cummins for a Now II inframe. Two weeks later we got a call that this truck has to come off the road now!!! Whats up? Oil sample results say ABC XYZ. That is amazing. It blew up 3 weeks ago and we got it back from Cummins 2 weeks ago.
Technology works much faster today. If 100 people answer you question you will get 100 different answers.
As for me if you are not adding more than a gallon of oil a week. Hopefully it is not using hardly any oil for about 12,000 miles then goes to a gallon a week.
That would be a good time for an oil change. If you come in off the road and the blow by tube does not look like a old faithful I would not do the dyno. That money could put bearings in it. If you are using lots of oil and have lots of blow by the dyno is also is also a waste. Pay someone to tell you your engine is worn out?
There is a middle ground in those 100 answers. Is your maintenance going to be proactive or reactive.spsauerland and Rideandrepair Thank this. -
I should add a bad turbo can cause extreme blow by. Also some engines can run a long time with a lot of blow by if oil consumption is not a major issue.
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You put 300k on it, you should be able to tell if its good or not.
If oil samples are good, oil pressure is in spec, starts easy in cold weather, doesn't consume excessive oil and pulls good I would just keep running it. Its rare for an engine to just fail with zero warning. Most cases there'll be signs that it's not happy.spsauerland, Rideandrepair, Farmtractor9900 and 1 other person Thank this.
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