How to uncouple a trailer... for dummies

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Kyle G., Aug 25, 2020.

  1. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    No air bag dump, and no trolley. Makes it a real pain when the trailer brakes are a bit too loose to adjust the tandems.

    Also no air gauge for the drives, but it does show weight on the drives on the display screen.
    The weight shows lighter by 1-2k pounds and I've learned to compensate to get it pretty close before scaling it.

    2020 International LT (ProStar).

    I guess those nice features were too expensive for Swift to handle.
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    I have seen yard dogs hook to a trailer and pull it out, then stop and go back and extend the landing gear several inches.

    No idea why they would do this except to make it much harder on us.
     
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    Hold on, I'm writing this down and ran out of ink. Be right back with a new pen.
     
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    If anyone is really into this, here is the Great Dane Trailers User Manual. They cover the exact procedure over pages 3-7. I believe there may be some very minor differences between the OP and Great Dane, who has been building trailers for over 100 years.
    By the way, the manual has a ton of other useful information. One is included with every new trailer, and promptly thrown in the trash by the first forklift driver to load it.
    http://ww2.greatdanetrailers.com/documents/10162/ff3f00eb-d7f1-4e83-a886-58e7e478e135
     
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  6. Kyle G.

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    Ah yes, Great Dane, I love them. One of my past employers bought 25 new trailers from them years ago that had to get the door frames reinforced (twice) because the doors wouldn’t close. Great Dane attempted to fix them once and failed so we had to fix them ourselves (needless to say they lost our business). But that’s a story for another day.

    So their manual says that during coupling, the 5th wheel should raise the trailer slightly when you back into it. That means, when you uncouple, the trailer should drop slightly off the 5th wheel when you pull away. Right? That was meant to be the main takeaway of my original post. But in all my years, and in every tractor I’ve driven, and at every company I’ve driven for, it seems like almost every single trailer I have ever coupled was higher than my 5th wheel.

    The procedure I described in my original post is how I learned how to do it in CDL school, and that method has worked flawlessly for me ever since.
     
  7. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    Fruehauf now Wabash in the States and Utility says the same exact thing. Run the legs down and take weight off truck. Smooth and easy. I’ve always done this.
    You see 1000’s of trailers with bowed up and warped bolster plates damaged by “lifting” and 100 lbs. of grease hanging off the front scraped off the wheel doing no good. Dropping it down on the landing gear shocks them and causes them to bind up and be a pita to crank.
    Not to mention the torque stress, twist, and shock loads on the driveline and clutch trying to lift it off the ground.
     
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    I don't think I've ever hooked to a trailer with actual landing gear. Always just been a pair of drop legs with a pin through them. Kinda limited in options there.
     
  9. Kyle G.

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    In my experience, what causes the landing gear to bind is when they are on the ground and the trailer tries to move in either direction, either from a truck doing a tug test or from an impatient forklift dummy ramming heavy pallets into the trailer.

    If you back under the trailer and let the 5th wheel take the weight off the landing gear, it will unbind.

    And i never meant you should “drop” the trailer on the landing gear. That’s why I suggested dumping the air bags to let the trailer settle gently on the landing gear. But other posters have informed me that many tractors don’t even have a dump valve, so idk what to say about that.
     
  10. Kyle G.

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    I’ve spent some time as a yard dog and I can assure you, MOST of them are complete idiots. I yard dogged at a paper company that had a dirt drop lot with a concrete pad for the landing gear. If you were pulling a trailer from the dock (where it is level) to the dirt lot, you would have to raise the legs a bit to compensate for that concrete pad, and vice versa if you were taking a trailer from the dirt lot to the dock. To further complicate the situation, one end of the lot sloped upward a little, so you would have to raise them up even higher if you dropped there to compensate for the pad and the incline.

    As I said, most of the drivers were idiots and they just didn’t get it. I would see them drop a trailer and pull away with their fifth wheels still several inches up. Or they would drop a trailer and the trailer would fall several inches and slam down on the landing gear, and they would just drive off like nothing happened. They couldn’t understand why the trailer would be the right height sitting in the dock and too high sitting in the drop lot. Ugh... it was frustrating.
     
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    This should be played on a continuous loop in the hostler lounge at every rail/port/container depot in the country
     
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