how trucking companies determine miles on a run ?

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  1. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    This right here goes to show the law isn't on the drivers side.They let companies make all the money/profit and the drivers not only get paid poverty wage but does'nt get paid for every mile they drive.Companies are finding more ways every day to rip the drivers off.Wonder whats next.
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    like this is anything new.

    It was that way in 1990 when I started and it was that way 20 years or more before that.

    Before that, it was HHG movers guide.
     
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  4. interdude

    interdude Light Load Member

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    [h=2]how trucking companies determine miles on a run ?[/h]
    any wich way that benefits and only makes sense to 'em

    then they talk to you like you're a real pal, smilling and how good they are to you
     
  5. cc tanker

    cc tanker Medium Load Member

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    try to get on with a private carrier alot of private fleets pay hub/speedometer/ecm miles...I f drive 2676 miles I get paid 2676...thats the way it should be , also all bottom line pay is hourly...get on witha private fleet or specialized carrier you will find a whole different world and its a lot better than working for a driver mill ...
     
  6. critters

    critters <b>Late For Dinner</b>

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    well supera1 thats how it works in this industry,it's not illegal,it's not ethical and it sure isn't a get rich or easy job.so if this is your last straw cause after a 1.5yrs driving you feel cheated then Good Luck,otherwise buckle down find ways to be more productive to your favor
     
  7. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    You at least made it one year...that puts you in like the top 90 percentile.

    I'm always amazed that with the plethora of information available today (especially on the Internet) for new entry level drivers, they still go into this industry and are "surprised" and disappointed by all the crapola one has to put up with in this business, especially just starting out.

    Good luck on your next venture.
     
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  8. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    A few years back, we ran some oversized loads from Laredo to Moab,Utah. They routed me through the woods to DelRio to FortStockton then up through Roswell to 40 to Gallup then up through the old Devils Highway (491-191). 1200 miles.

    A guy with a legal load shows up ticked. He's made because the load offer said 1200 miles and he ran 1900 miles. 1900 miles? From Laredo to Moab? How do you do something like that?

    Which way did you go, driver?

    "Up 35 to 10 to 25 to 70 to..."

    70??? You went all the way to Denver,Colorado, then all the way to GreenRiver then back south to get to Moab?

    "Well, I don't like running goat paths."

    491 isn't a goat path. They run all the oversized through that route...even the superloads.

    Anyways, companies used to pay hub miles. You can thank your fellow drivers for that. All the drivers who would run 200 miles out of route to get some strange. Why does it always work out in the company's favor? Because if it worked in the driver's favor, the lowlife drivers would bankrupt the companies. Is there a solution? Absolutely!

    BUY YOUR OWN TRUCK. You don't have to agree to that pay by the mile crap. They offer you a load, you determine if it pays you enough to pull it. Does it ever work in favor of the driver? Yes it does! But the trick is, you have to ever be mindful of your freight lane. There are certain areas where a mileage driver is protected. He's getting a guaranteed rate in and out of everywhere he goes. A percentage driver might get a good rate going into a dead zone, but an abysmal rate coming out.

    Most percentage drivers won't pull for less than say $2 a mile. Where freight is plenty, that's okay. But if you go out of your freight lane into a dead zone, you wind up taking a big hit. The shipping companies and brokers in a dead zone will think, "we can move this old for $.80 cpm. Some dumb driver will pull it just to avoid deadheading." And they're right. Some stupid driver will take a load for $.80cpm, grossing 79980, to avoid deadheading. It's like being in prison and agreeing to be some guy's girlfriend to avoid getting into a fight.
     
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  9. Cman301

    Cman301 Light Load Member

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    Be glad you are not getting paid hhg miles ,you were always losing 15/25% miles ,hub miles always best
     
  10. 379exhd

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    Well looks like we lost another driver. Turnover rate is now at 98.4% sad day. Sorry but it will probably never change. If you dont like being paid zip to zip and want to get back at the company for taking some of that money from you theres numberous ways to do it. It's not that hard. You drove 20 miles extra than what they paid you for? Simple drive around town for 20 minutes burn up their diesel now you and the company are even. I get paid zip to zip and the extra I charge when I bid the rate up is to make up for the miles they didnt take into account. Sometimes zip to zip screws you other times it doesnt. I have had loads where it was shorter than what i got paid for just the luck of the draw sometimes. Oh well pay wont change unless you deal direct with customers and fleets are going to do what they have to to maximize profit. Aint going to change it just gotta roll with it.
     
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  11. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    The company I used to train for paid entry level drivers 30 cents per miles.

    I used to tell the new guys on my truck that they really weren't going to start at 30 cents per mile, it would be more like 28 cents per mile.

    When they asked why, I explained the whole practical mile and zip to zip methodology logistics uses. They were always shocked and dismayed and wanted to know why the recruiter didn't "explain" that to them ;-)
     
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