Hub Seal gone, spindle may be damaged.....

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  1. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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  3. swaggerjacker

    swaggerjacker Medium Load Member

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    Thanks, Ive called a few shops. Most were closed. I was just wondering if someone had a "go to" in that area. I'm not with the trailer at the moment.
     
  4. BoxCarKidd

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    First find a good repair shop. It maybe repairable if the spindle is rough a good guy maybe able to patch it up to do your load and get home. Not many people can remove some of those bearing races without messing up the spindle. If weight allows remove the assembly, chain it up and ride. If you can slide it to the rear even if it just to get off the highway. Put the whole axle in the trailer once.
    Axle Surgeans is a franchise. I have used them three times. Two trucks and one trailer. The trailer was a nice older single axle low boy except the suspension. The axle was welded into the I-beam frame. A guy came from a different area and said the other guy could not get to it. We trade off like that when we can. It's been a few years but $650. I would never do that on a regular trailer because I can get an axle from Great Dane for about $1200.
    Sorry I can't help on the "go to" just thought some been there done that might help. Good Luck.
     
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  5. BoxCarKidd

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    They are mobile. Did the trailer I mentioned on the dirt. That guy traved about 200 miles to get here.
     
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  6. OLDSKOOLERnWV

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    Had to do a repair like that on a 1 ton GMC 4x4, front right. Inner race on the outer bearing had seized to the spindle, found a hammer and chisel and took care of that. Lot of sweat and elbow grease with a flat file got the spindle dressed back up. This was on a Sunday on route 90 just east of New Orleans. Driver hollered at me on the CB so I pulled the R model Mack over and walked back to find the Volkswagon look.... Leaning in at the top.
    I doubt you have the tools to start any of that but, you can sometimes bandaid it to get it in. I was fortunate to find a O Rielys a mile back with parts in stock.
     
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  7. xsetra

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    I think if the hub oil/grease didn't start a fire, the spindle didn't get hot enough to warp.
    I've had to do that repair on a few mobile home axles on the side of the road. Beat the old race off, sometimes using a pipe wrench to grab and beat the heck out of it with a bfh. File to smooth to get the new race on.

    As long as the race will seat properly the bearings will be in the correct location.
    Couple indicators of the spindle condition, Couple easy ones, does it look straight, put a straight edge to and and see. Second has the spindle heated enough to change the color. If either of these conditions exist, I would have it checked by a mechanic.
    Also if you put the wheels back on and the tires spin off center. Well that's a no brainer.
    These repairs were on mobile home axles not freight trailer axles.

    I had a freight trailer axle begin to wobble and the grease did start on fire. I had to replace everthing but the axle or spindle. Even though it heated up it did not warp. Axle nuts were able to spin on and off like usual.

    Good luck with your repairs. Couple places I stopped in Vernal the people were friendly. Not a bad place for the driver to spend a day or two if required for repair.

    I know, I know, it is never a good day for a repair unless you are at home.
     
  8. rolls canardly

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    ALWAYS carry the BFH.
    A long chisel and a brass bar paired with him is "unbeatable."
    Could lay in your box 3 years, but the day you need it - oh boy.
    A box of Rubber gloves and a dozen paper towels later, you should
    be able to assess the damage better.
    Good luck with your issues. Hope its not too far gone.
     
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    I was gonna quote BoxCarrKidd above about removing the race; but the darned thing kept givin me a "not found" error? (And we went to the moon on less than a smart phone?)

    Anyway - a 13 ton hydraulic 3 jaw puller for around $100.00. Sounds Impossible, right?

    Got one from Harbor Freight - and it DOES the impossible. Just in the shop, of course.
    Tuff pulls - just take the torch to it, for heat, and pow - it moving. Pumps up 13 tons!
    If it just a junk race to come off, you can do the wizz wheel thing, and split it with a old screwdriver to spread it open. If you drive it in race on same plane as the axle goes in,
    it comes off slick like its on a handle.
     
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  10. AModelCat

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    I just gas axe that kind of stuff off. I'm fairly decent with a torch (all those dang excavator pins and bushings I did in my early 20's lol). Wouldn't recommend that method if you aren't skilled with a torch though. Easy to gouge the spindle if you don't keep the tip out of it.
     
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