Hub vs. Book Miles

Hub miles Rock!! You get paid any time the truck moves, even if you have to take a slight detour to stop at the nearest Wal-Mart! lol Are there still company's out there that pay hub miles?? I figured most of the bigger company's use Rand McNally or something of the sort by now.

 

I am unsure of what program trans am uses. But rarely do I go OOR, and on most loads I am either right on what the load pays, or just a few miles above it. Sometimes I have even been 20 miles below it. That's a good feeling.

 

This is not only the best string of impossible that I have ever seen, it could be the best I have ever heard ofl... Good Work

 

I don't see where anyone explained what the "hub" actually is.

The "hub" is actually a device that is attached to the hub of a wheel on the tractor.
It's a counter-weighted turns counter that is free spinning inside its housing & counts the number of revolutions the wheel makes.
As it counts the revolutions, the device is calibrated to read out the # of turns as mileage.
The only thing it needs to know is the tire diameter or how many times that tire will turn in a mile.
It is considered about the most accurate form of miles measurement in the mechanical realm.
Back when speedos were mechanical, these were much better mileage counters.

Today's trucks are generally electronic speedos that can be calibrated very close to right on...if someone takes the time to do it.

I'm not sure which would be considered the most accurate compared to electronic speedos.
They both still need to know the tire diameters but the electronic speedos also need to know gearing in the rears & tranny's.
They can both suffer inaccuracy due to wheel diameter changes as the tires wear.

Now that you know what the "hub" is, you need to know the general ways drivers get paid.

In the pay-by-mile accounting, you need a means to measure those miles.
Guides or rather "books" were developed for this purpose.

You have the Household Movers Guide that provides fair accuracy for points in between post offices in each town.

The caveat of this method is that you aren't loading & unloading at the post office.
Usually you'll be some distance away from the PO & the extra miles beyond the post office comes out of your pocket.
It's commonly assumed that you're giving up aprox 10+% of your pay by this method.
This is a true assesment more often than not.

Then there's the hub miles.
This is the actual mileage from beginning to end; not between post offices.
If you go out of the expected route, the hub will show it.
However, if you don't deviate from the expected route, the hub will generally pay better.

Now there's myriad computer programs that use GPS co-ordinates providing very good accuracy in mileages.

But, regardless of improved accuracy offered by GPS & hubs, everyone still uses the old HHG books to set the rates.
This makes it look cheaper to the customer.
It is cheaper to the customer because you are subsizing the load costs out of your pocket.

An interesting thing I found with routing, no one will tell you what they determined as "the route".
I asked a few times what the paid route consisted of in terms of which roads were chosen as the correct route.
I never got a detailed answer.
How do you know if or when you're out of route?
Somehow & quite miraculously, the company knows....but can't tell you?
Go figger.

 

Fozzy sounds like you never heard of "a right to work state." Pa is an example. This means an employer may fire you for no reason and you can quit without notice for no reason either. So no excuses are necessary in a right to work state.