After driving Eisenhower at night I couldn't see why we as drivers should risk our necks for the rich (who steal our wages through the market) who live in Aspen and Vail. I think it would be sending trains up there and if they can't do that then no dependent people should live up there IMO.
It seems that the real problem with Cabbage patch is the fog, something very rare if any at Eisenhower pass. And, not to get off topic but I found some data and a video showing Eisenhower in very good conditions. the tunnel is on a constant grade on the west bound side, and when you reach the end it drops off like a ski slop which is how I describe it.
When you come out of the western tunnel you are at the top of the summit which is 11,158ft the bottom is 8.5 miles and the elevation at the bottom is 8,795ft which is a drop of 2,363ft which drops you 278ft per mile. It's constant downhill with no lights along the shoulder making night driving in snowy white out conditions very difficult at times.
http://www.crashforensics.com/eisenhowerpass.cfm
I-84 Oregon - Cabbage Patch - multi truck collision - two fatalities
Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by Lepton1, Mar 7, 2014.
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So you say chains were not required. You could of put them on. There is no law that says you couldn't.
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Cabbage patch is that the hill/mountain where if your going westbound you can look down and see where your actually gonna end up at, then it kinda winds its way down>>>???? If I'm not mistaken there is a pilot truck stop down near the bottom of it ..I don't run west but Ive been out there a time or 4 ..
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Ya know..I hear everyone always talking about Cabbage Hill..Or The Vail pass..Or killer Hill(Donners)..........
What about 4th of July Pass?? What about Lookout Pass? what about the Killer Continental Divide Pass On I-90 east of Butte?? That Sumbich will get you going Eastbound and if your heavy... -
Good point stayinback, there are lots of bad[behind] hills out there. I started this thread about the particular accident on Cabbage Patch to highlight the need to slow down in heavy fog, since that was a major contributing factor in this accident. Fog on a bad downhill that is also slippery is like a bad situation to the third power.
This section of the forum is like an education in what not to do or what to avoid in order to get to my destination safely. When I was an avid mountain climber I always read the annual publication Accidents in North American Mountaineering and would talk about various accidents with my climbing buddies, running through scenarios of how to avoid taking a bad fall or getting buried in an avalanche. I lost count after a couple dozen of my friends and acquaintances died, and always tried to learn from their mistakes in order to "live long and prosper".
Rather than simply say, "Gosh he was stupid" I try to put myself in his shoes in that situation and see how I would have handled it. Dismissing an accident as simply an act of stupidity without learning from it is a way to be the subject of this sub-forum in the future.DirkSteel Thanks this. -
MacDonald Pass comes to mind dropping into Helena Mt on 12 East,steep 8% and winding.
Highway 12 has a few, like White Pass between Mt. Rainer and Mt.St.Helens here in Washington and Lolo Pass in Idaho/Montana. -
Its between Pendleton, Oregon at the bottom and the wb scale at the top. I think the mm's were 216-226!54Trucker Thanks this. -
# of hills I've driven out west... Vail/Eisenhower were probably my biggest 'problems' as I've hit them in ice/snow a few times. Worst hill I ever drove was Trout Creek Pass near Buena Vista, CO on US24. Had a light mist that saw the temperature plunge quickly in the late afternoon and it froze. Took me over an hour from top to bottom.
Also had some fun in the winter on Monach Pass going eastbound on US50. Only time I've driven US550 (Million Dollar Highway - Montrose to Durango) was in beautiful summer weather. But, I'd have hated the idea of ever coming down into Ouray heading North in a snowstorm.54Trucker Thanks this.
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