I hope my thought process is right (warning, long post)

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by DannyD, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. DannyD

    DannyD Light Load Member

    57
    15
    Jun 9, 2014
    Michigan
    0
    I hope I have a good plan of action here. I’m sure there’s holes in it though, so any input (even that I’m an idiot, provided ya give me a reason) is appreciated. In another thread a few people told me not to be lazy when I wanted a way to put in one app to several companies. I appreciate the honesty. So here goes.

    I am going to sign on with Swift. (problem #1 eh?). I saw a Swift driver on the way to my CDL training last week. He was doing exactly what I hope to be doing. Delivering cars. He works out of Laredo, lives in Cali, and drives with his wife as a 2 truck team.

    By that I mean they take 2 trucks out of Laredo, deliver to areas near each other, then load her truck onto his and drive back to Laredo. He told me he’d been there 15 years, was happy as a clam, and made about $1500/week. When his wife came out, she pretty much confirmed what he said. She was in the dealership at the time he and I started talking. That $1500 was for each, not total.

    She came out, not knowing what he’d said to me, and pretty much duplicated what he said.

    The husband/wife drivers had nothing to do with Swift recruiting. It was a chance meeting. I’ll probably never see them again. They definitely influenced me to follow up a little harder with Swift though.

    I know they don’t have APUs and a few other things I’d like. I have to admit one other factor in signing with Swift is I can drive to orientation. I won’t have to stay in a hotel if I don’t want. I’m thinking being close to a terminal has advantages over a company who’s closest terminal is 300 miles away.

    I also talked to another company. This was a recruiter. This one I’d rather not name, not out of any fear or anything, but I don’t want to jinx myself. Their ad indicated they hired right out of school. So I was talking to him along with a few other companies, getting information from them all.

    We had a really good talk. He told me that they had tried hiring drivers straight out of school, but that it hadn’t really worked out. So he wanted me to have some experience. He said 6 months would be good. I told him I was going to go with Swift then, and asked if I should check back in November or so. His reply was “you don’t have to wait that long.”

    So I talked to my Swift recruiter shortly after talking to this other one. I was upfront with her. We talked about Swift being known as a starter company, things of that nature. I mentioned that I’d seen a guy on this site who got a $300 or so check, and that while I didn’t have an exact number in mind, if I was going to be OTR I expected to make in the $700/800 range at least. If not I wouldn’t be there very long. I wasn’t a dink about it, just more explaining that I had certain expectations. She said the average 1[SUP]st[/SUP] year Swift driver makes $39,000.

    I mentioned that I wanted to deliver cars, telling her about the husband/wife I met. She said she wasn’t sure about that program, except that it wasn’t available in Michigan. She asked if I might be interested in Intermodel. If not, I might have to relocate closer to Laredo. I’d be willing to relocate, so that wouldn’t be a problem.

    Basically I guess I just don’t want to feel like I’m using Swift. I saw another post from a guy who talked about getting their training and then taking off. I didn’t really respect that very much. If I can get a job like the husband/wife or something I enjoy, I’ve got no problems retiring from Swift.

    On the other hand, I’ve also read posts where their trainers are spaced out among other things. I also don’t want to spend all my time chasing trailers. One former Swift driver told me about being somewhere and there were 30 some odd drivers ahead of him looking for trailers. He told me about being in lots where he’d have to open 8 trailers to see if they were empty or not on a dark night. So I’m not sure what to expect.

    I hope I’m doing this right. I feel like I’ve got Swift and a back up company. I will give Swift my very best effort.

    I believe what everyone has told me and/or posted about Swift, whether it be good or bad. I’m not counting on the $1500/week right out of training, but I’m also not going to be around if my checks are $300 like the one guy posted.

    Do I have the right idea in going with a company but having a backup in mind? Or is that like thinking in advance that Swift won’t work and I’m jumping ship?
     
    Chinatown Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Redbeard93

    Redbeard93 Light Load Member

    163
    109
    Jan 25, 2013
    Beaverdam VA
    0
    i think you doing the right thing always have a backup plan, iam going to swift also for flatbed but i have my reasons for not being able to have a number 2 or 3 company to have in my back pocket. good luck and the vets can answer you better they are far more wise then me lol
     
    Chinatown Thanks this.
  4. sherlock510

    sherlock510 Road Train Member

    1,066
    1,058
    Jul 26, 2011
    Intercontinental.
    0
    Cliff notes version?

    Don't go to Swift for obvious reasons, do ya research on that one.

    ..and don't believe anyone's word on their earnings unless you see a w-2.
     
    DannyD Thanks this.
  5. TomOfTx

    TomOfTx Road Train Member

    1,190
    1,406
    Jul 13, 2013
    Friendswood, TX
    0
    One of the keys to making money will be to do all the things most everyone else will not. You have to be a go getter. Take every load regardless of destination or miles, get the load picked up and delivered as promptly as you can (legally), manage your time to make sure as much of your day can be spent being productive and not hanging out at the truck stop ####-chatting, do what ever dirty work needs to be done (looking for empty trailers, etc), keep growing your knowledge of the job and the law so you always know ways to make more money with out jeopardizing your safety or freedom, know your equipment and be able to fix minor things when needed instead of sitting at a shop wasting time, limit how often you call your driver manager to only cases of urgency or he/she will see you as someone needing to be babysat all the time (many questions can be answered from a simple google search), be committed to having no accidents or incidents or moving violations. Safety First, Never Last.... Have a Future, Not a Past!

    These are just a sample of some tips. It really comes down to how motivated you will be. Some people dream of success and some wake up and achieve it. Without giving a 150% effort, jobs and the pay you strive to make will just remain a dream and not reality. It is up to you to make it happen!
     
    DannyD Thanks this.
  6. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

    1,290
    583
    Nov 24, 2008
    MN
    0
    1) I don't think they Swift driver saying they make $1500/week is at all truthful... If that was the case there would be a lot more drivers stay driving at swift. (they have a reputation for a reason).

    2) There are other options for getting started... Requires a bit more leg work but work can be found at smaller carriers. It's what I did.

    3) Relocation for a driving job with swift? I certainly would never consider it, unless I had been planning to move there before I ever heard of swift.
     
    DannyD and Skydivedavec Thank this.
  7. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

    11,340
    27,299
    Nov 8, 2009
    The Highway To Hell.
    0
    Swift isn't the best company. But they certainly aren't the worst either. It's good that you've thought it out and not went to CRE.
     
    DannyD and Chinatown Thank this.
  8. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    22,383
    116,197
    Dec 18, 2011
    Michigan
    0
    Well, the thing YOU have to remember is this - this is all about numbers and nothing more. Swift doesn't have any emotional investment into any one person that works for them so if you plan on getting started with them, and have a "plan" to move to something that you may enjoy, then they won't have an issue with it as long as you leave on good terms.
     
    DannyD and Chinatown Thank this.
  9. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

    74,749
    170,174
    Aug 28, 2011
    Henderson, NV & Orient
    0
    Good idea, relocate to Texas, no personal income taxes and much better weather than Michigan.
    The car hauling with Swift is one of those little niche jobs and a good one. Is it all teams hauling cars and do they let new CDL hires enter that division?

    As far as the pay the couple mentioned, you can make that driving for Old Dominion and not have to deal with cars. Usually, Old Dominion requires 1 yr. experience, but lately they've been hiring tons of new CDL grads running out of certain terminals.

    Even CRST has a niche division hauling golf carts, called Club Car Division, but need 1 yr. experience first and it's teams. They have a tanker division also. I'm not recommending CRST, just using it for an example of a company with a niche division.

    Even TMC has a boat hauling division.

    If you relocate to Laredo or about anywhere in Texas, especially along the Gulf Coast, you can always land a top paying tanker job; easy money with tankers. Plenty of those jobs from the LA state line all the way to Mexico along the Gulf Coast.

    Seems like a decent plan; sign on with Swift, relocate to Texas, then in 6 months decide if you want to remain a Swift driver or move on. At least you will be in an area with 100's of other options available.
     
    DannyD and joyride43 Thank this.
  10. joyride43

    joyride43 Bobtail Member

    27
    10
    Jun 23, 2014
    Portsmouth, Virginia
    0
    I agree with Chinatown. I never made that kind of money there. Expect $300-500 a week average starting out there. After 6mos they pay a little better but at that point you have enough experience to go to a lot better company. Believe me, if your company (swift) doesn't have an Apu and discourages you from idling so you can be comfortable and sleep, they don't care about you!!! They are also a publicly traded company, usually means care about shareholders, not drivers. Good luck to you!!!
     
    DannyD Thanks this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.