I Just Heard That E-Logs Will Be Mandatory In 2015

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by RiskyBusiness, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Guntoter

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    Using your brakes for 30 minutes will cause them to overheat. Then you will need to take a break on the side of the road.

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    Only took me maybe 15 minutes at the most. I guess that's why I never passed a Swift truck and thought to myself, "wow, they sure are making much better time than me with their e-logs".
     
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    That is good. I have a couple of college degrees, and a minor in mathematics, with a 3.8 GPA. Yet, I like Elogs. A professor I had at the University of Colorado clearly stated one day in class that if there is an easier way to do something, then do it that way. Why do more than necessary to get the task done? Well, Elogs take care of the nonsense for me. I don't have to worry about compliance or the 8, the 11, the 14, the time from the last reset, the recap if no reset, etc, etc. All I have to do is concentrate on the driving and booking the load so it is realistic. When I get home, just hit OFF DUTY, and enjoy the time on my rural property, whether it be one day or a week. When I start, just hit the ON Duty for a few minutes pre-trip and head on out.

    I never cease to be amazed at how those that don't like something will make personal attacks against those that do. Clearly, from the Psychology and Sociology classes I had as well, those that rail against others that do something different are exhibiting an irrational fear, and the only way they can deal with it is to lash out against others. I really could care less if anyone uses Elogs or not. I don't waste any effort worrying about what someone else does. I have enough trouble concentrating on my operation. I hardly ever use all my 70 in a week. Most weeks I get a 34 reset. I am home every weekend and holiday. And in all of this, I am making more actual after tax than at any time I was on paper. (no, I am not on a dedicated run or similar) So, I have no downside really to using Elogs. If that doesn't work for someone else, cool. If it fits one's pistol to stay on paper, by all means, stay on paper.
     
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    Well said. The only gripe I have against E-logs is it should be our choice. The only reason I would stay on paper is necessity. Why swin the river if there is a bridge.
     
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    I ran with and without elogs. I have driven for the company and for my self. I have rented and I have owned. I've ran caps and virgins.... There is the reason why those who read a lot and excersice their brain are not liked. There is the reason why the gov't wants to have the leash on as many people as possible. There is the reason why brokers/fmcsa/dots/carriers do not like old timers vs newcomers. Think, if the elogs were beneficial to the truckers then, gov't would not have been pushing for it. Gov't never, in recent years, has done anything that would benefit the achievers-they have done, and doing, everything they can to penalize the achievers. If the elogs are nothing but a tool, then leave it as an option to be used as the tool by those who see it fit for their operation. Isn't that what free enterprise is?
     
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    I heard, in state trucking association after meeting meetings, that President Obama (then Senator Obama) made a deal with the Teamsters and other union muckety mucks to push e-logs in exchange for campaign support. Rationale was it would create trucking jobs by causing a slow down thereby requiring more re-powering loads, thereby requiring more jobs in both driving and support (dispatch).

    Don't know if that's true but that was the beer buzz after trucking association meetings when he was running. Now here it is all these years later and MAP-21 didn't have all that much opposition amongst the lawmakers. Lot of huff and puff from other organizations that sounded an awful lot like: "Thou dost protest too loudly" (kinda like the insurance industry "protesting" Affordable Health Care Act then laughing when it passed going: "We fooled 'em. Suckers bought it. Ready? 1, 2,3 . . . rate hike!"), but overall MAP-21 passed pretty straight through as far as such things go. Makes one wonder.

    In the end they are what they are. Might as well get used to them because they're here and here to stay. Go ahead and steel yourselves to the fact they will be transmitted via a transponder to every scale you come to also. Probably gonna set up "readers" along the major freight corridors too. Some of us will retire (not me - I'm doomed to work 'till I die. I'm already practicing for my next job for when my body just won't let me truck anymore: "Welcome to Walmart" - how'd I do?) before that happens but many forum participants will see the day and go:

    "I knew this sh!+ would happen". Just like many of us are saying now about E-Logs. "I knew this sh!+ would happen." Now if y'all will excuse me, I got a message to contact the log department. I know what's coming. I tried to cheat my log using off duty driving. The fact I was not tired in the least and I did it because it was the only way to make the delivery on time will be absolutely lost on the supervisor chewing my arse and I have already reconciled myself to my part of the conversation being reduced to:

    "Yes sir. I understand. No excuse. I apologize. It won't happen again [until the next time]." See, at the end of my day I know they are what they are and they are here to stay and they are supposed to make us more safe and all that and I can't really argue with the PRINCIPLE behind that. But no matter how much I try and get with the program in the new world of trucking (some of which IS pretty cool - like air ride big arse sleepers, bunk heaters and APU's, GPS and cell phones) I just can't get that; "do what you have to do to get the load there on time - as long as you're feeling OK" outta me. It's hardwired. It'd be like trying to get the diesel outta my blood. It ain't gonna happen. When they cremate my remains one day (after taking anything left that still works and giving it to someone that is suffering because theirs doesn't work); I'll be the cause of the funeral home going up in smoke because they torched 160 pounds of human that was mostly diesel.

    Till that day I'll just do what us truckers have always done and always will do: Beyatch about it while we just deal with it and shake the freight right along down the road regardless.

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    Been there, done that. Don't need to cover that many miles any longer.
     
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    only 3 yrs off