I need an honest and to the point answer please

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Crescent, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. Crescent

    Crescent Bobtail Member

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    I am trying to settle a bet and also at least give some sound but real advice to someone. He was asking questions and I heard a bunch of crazy numbers fly around between the drivers he was talking to and I wanna give him some real advice as well as win a bet against a driver who told me he pulled 150,000 with a dry van once. Now that just doesn't realistic to me, I'm pretty sure he is blowing smoke.
    Whats the maximum weight you can load a Dry Van? I know it's 80 (12, 34, 34) but whats the maximum without breaking the trailer and being out of control. The maximum you can load it and drive it where it needs to go (say 11 hours across the interstate).

    And whatever the maximum is whether is 90,000 or 120,000, how should the axles be weighed with the extra weight. Tires? Engine? Tranny? 5th Wheel? Tandems? Speeds?
    If you can share whatever your experience (Experience only please, don't tell me what you heard from someone that told someone that you knew) is regarding every aspect of this adventure.

    PS: Regular Volvo 670 with ISX Cummins (Don't know Horsepower) and a pretty regular looking 53 Dry Van Trailer (Looked to be in decent shape from where I was standing)

    Thanks in advance
     
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  3. chompi

    chompi Road Train Member

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    The total weight of the truck cannot be more than 80,000 not just the freight you are hauling. Anything more than that you need special permitting. 40,000 is the maximum freight that can be hauled.
     
  4. Optimus

    Optimus Light Load Member

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    I have pulled 120,000 in a van w/ the roof cut off. Granted, I pulled it in the yard(no more than a mile). But, we pull wood chips and those regularly go over 100k
     
  5. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    We can pull 49,500 with some of our trailers - needs to be one of our "lightweight" tractors though.
     
  6. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    with a fliner classic---i could go 45000
     
  7. rockee

    rockee Road Train Member

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    Lol, sounds like you need a lighter truck and tlr
     
  8. ac120

    ac120 Road Train Member

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    80,000 = maximum gross vehicle weight (= load + rig, 12/34/34) on Interstates, not maximum load weight, unless you're doing heavy haul, then the license is for 105,000 maximum gross vehicle weight (at least in the west), but then you're talking about tag-axle tractors, and multi-axled trailers and trailers built for it. GVW depends on how many axles you have to support the weight. I believe that over 105,000 you're talking about permit loads; I have no idea how many axles you'd need. Again, "Maximum weight you can load a dry van" isn't 80,000 -- unless it's a 3 or 4 axle dry van, and even then you'd be over 105,00. I assume you mean a two-axle dry van.

    The heaviest load I ever pulled -- copier paper in a two-axle dry van from Salem, OR to Reno -- had me at 79,980 overall. The load weighed 45,600. I have the scale tickets.

    I don't believe "150,00 with a dry van," either load weight or GVW. I have no idea of maximum weights "without breaking the trailer." Depends on the trailer and how the load weight is distributed inside. It does indeed sound like smoke.

    Perhaps someone from Swift's heavy haul division, or Gordon, or Interstate, or Sherman Bros. can pop in here with some numbers.
     
  9. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Probably why they don't like "fatties" in Springfield! LOL!! :biggrin_2559:
     
  10. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    I've hauled over 40,000 lbs on a few occasions and scaled within the 80,000.
     
  11. TK THE TRUCKER

    TK THE TRUCKER Bobtail Member

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    In my opinion there's no way a regular dry van is going to support that kind of weight. I have an all steel push out trailer I haul scrap steel in. The axle ratings for the truck and trailer are 13,200-46,000-50,000. My New York permit allows 13,200-46,000-47,000 but the gross can't exceed 102,000. This is on a normal 5 axles setup. Even if I had an extra axle it would only bring the legal gross up to 107,000.

    I've unfortunetly hauled way over weight several times. I've grossed up to 128,000 and that puts 78,000 in the wagon. Even my solid steel trailer has some sagging with that kind of weight on it. Going down the road like that is a weird feeling. Every curve you can feel that weight and need to slow down. This is my experience with heavy loads on a truck with a much heavier set up. I say no way to 150,000 gross on a normal set up without some serious damage. And if he's talking 150,000 net, no freakin way ! Maybe you could get away with 100,000-110,000 gross on a normal dry van, maybe.:biggrin_255:
     
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